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Cavaliers Trade Ideas: 2022-23 regular season edition

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would you put Porzingas at PF and Mobley at SF. I know it prob wont happen but that would be a fun lineup
It would be fun, but I don't like it. Putting Mobley at SF pulls him more to the perimeter on defense and he wouldn't be able to roam like a free safety, which is a big reason the team's defense is so good. You obviously can't put Porzingis at SF. He's not close to being the athlete Lauri was; he'd get destroyed.
 
I think the Bulls are going to be sellers at the deadline! Maybe they do DeRozen a solid and move him to a contender? Would love to see him at the SF :)
 
I think the Bulls are going to be sellers at the deadline! Maybe they do DeRozen a solid and move him to a contender? Would love to see him at the SF :)

He's 33 years old, makes a ton of money, can't shoot 3s and will cost too much... pass. I could see the Lakers going for him, they need shooting in the worst way but they also have a terrible GM and are desperate
 
This trade seems obvious, no? San Antonio does not need a 31 year old veteran who is only playing 15-20 minutes a game currently. They may be holding out for a first round pick, but the package below clears them of any salary obligations for next year (Cedi is non-guaranteed) and gives them a young project player in Windler. Throw in a second round pick to SAS as a sweetener and I think that's a pretty reasonable trade for both teams. This trade also keeps the Cavs below the luxury tax line this year.

You could also substitute Okoro for Cedi. SAS won't get salary relief as Okoro has another year, but he would also be another young developmental player. I would prefer to make the trade with Cedi.

McDermott is 6'6, is shooting 41% from 3 this year, which is exactly his career average as well. He is a sieve defensively, but I think the legit shooting threat he brings can nullify that to an extent, especially if he is playing with Mobley and Allen.

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This trade seems obvious, no? San Antonio does not need a 31 year old veteran who is only playing 15-20 minutes a game currently. They may be holding out for a first round pick, but the package below clears them of any salary obligations for next year (Cedi is non-guaranteed) and gives them a young project player in Windler. Throw in a second round pick to SAS as a sweetener and I think that's a pretty reasonable trade for both teams. This trade also keeps the Cavs below the luxury tax line this year.

You could also substitute Okoro for Cedi. SAS won't get salary relief as Okoro has another year, but he would also be another young developmental player. I would prefer to make the trade with Cedi.

McDermott is 6'6, is shooting 41% from 3 this year, which is exactly his career average as well. He is a sieve defensively, but I think the legit shooting threat he brings can nullify that to an extent, especially if he is playing with Mobley and Allen.

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Assuming this is Cedi/Windler/2 for Doug McBuckets - image didn't load for me.

If we have to make a move I think this is the one. Doug and Cedi do a lot of things similarly as offensive minded 3s with bad D. I think Cedi is marginally better on defense and a bit better as a ball handler, but Doug is a more consistent and better shooter and has a more diverse game inside the arc, but weaker finisher. I really like Doug to shore up the spacing in different lineups. I don't love him as a starter when we have options like Wade or Levert who provide a bit more perimeter D. I am certain JBB will run a Love/McDermott lineup at some point and I worry for the health of those in the game threads when that happens, but I really like this construction.

IMO we would have to follow this up with a move that gets off Levert for a more defensive minded wing. Who that is, I have no idea, but I would love to nab maybe DFS from Dallas or a player in a similar mold.
 
Kuzma is intriguing to me, but....


The real question mark for Kuzma is his outside shot. He's at career-high volume right now (7.5) while only converting 34.3% of his triples. Of those 7.5 attempts a night, 5.7 of them (76%) are of the catch-and-shoot variety; he's only nailed 35.4% of those, below the threshold needed for teams to think twice about helping off of him.

In Kuzma's six-year career, he's eclipsed the 37% mark on catch-and-shoot threes twice — during his rookie season (37.5% on 4.6 attempts) and during his last year with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2020-21 (37.5% on 4.7 attempts). Those happen to be the only seasons he's shot over 36% from three overall.

In short: Kuzma's been a streaky shooter off the catch, and a flat-out poor one — 26.1% on 402 attempts — when taking them off the bounce. Considering his poor three-point track record in the postseason thus far (28.3% across 27 games), it's fair for contenders to worry about how defenses will treat him, and how he'll respond.

...wow. That is awful.
 
Kuzma is intriguing to me, but....




...wow. That is awful.

That's why Ive never understood the interest or intrigue with Kuzma. He's the lovechild of JR Smith and Derek Zoolander. He's the kind of guy that tricks bad teams into giving him a big deal they instantly regret because they just saw highlights and watched a boxscore.
 
I think the Bulls are going to be sellers at the deadline! Maybe they do DeRozen a solid and move him to a contender? Would love to see him at the SF :)
Can't defend the position, is a poor three point shooter, and needs the ball to be effective. Hard pass.
 
This trade seems obvious, no? San Antonio does not need a 31 year old veteran who is only playing 15-20 minutes a game currently. They may be holding out for a first round pick, but the package below clears them of any salary obligations for next year (Cedi is non-guaranteed) and gives them a young project player in Windler. Throw in a second round pick to SAS as a sweetener and I think that's a pretty reasonable trade for both teams. This trade also keeps the Cavs below the luxury tax line this year.

You could also substitute Okoro for Cedi. SAS won't get salary relief as Okoro has another year, but he would also be another young developmental player. I would prefer to make the trade with Cedi.

McDermott is 6'6, is shooting 41% from 3 this year, which is exactly his career average as well. He is a sieve defensively, but I think the legit shooting threat he brings can nullify that to an extent, especially if he is playing with Mobley and Allen.

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As desperate as we are for shooting, McDermott isn't viewed as having positive value on his contract around the NBA. He's a K. Love quality defender without the rebounding, passing, or post play ability. There's a reason he's only getting limited run on a bad team. Open question as to whether you could even play him in the playoffs or if he'd get run off the floor. If we're swapping Okoro for him, I'd want value back from the Spurs and Spurs have plenty of cap space.

Frankly, I think it's time for Altman to admit to himself that the LeVert trade was an L and ship him out instead. If we're dealing with the Spurs, I'd like to see us bring in J. Rich and McDermott for LeVert, Windler, and Lopez, but before the Spurs would be motivated to do that, another team would have to compensate them for eating a bad contract in a three-team deal.
 
That's why Ive never understood the interest or intrigue with Kuzma. He's the lovechild of JR Smith and Derek Zoolander. He's the kind of guy that tricks bad teams into giving him a big deal they instantly regret because they just saw highlights and watched a boxscore.
Yeah, I've heard him referred to as a versatile defender and every time I hear it, I'm like is versatile the new *bad*? Every team that's had him has ended up moving him to PF because he can't defend the SF position.
 
Cleveland receives: Kyle Kuzma, Rui Hachimura, Corey Kispert & '25 top 10 prot. first
Washington receives: Jarrett Allen & Dylan Windler

Why?
Cleveland gets players that fit better.
Washington gets an all-star big man who is still young.
 
Cleveland receives: Kyle Kuzma, Rui Hachimura, Corey Kispert & '25 top 10 prot. first
Washington receives: Jarrett Allen & Dylan Windler

Why?
Cleveland gets players that fit better.
Washington gets an all-star big man who is still young.
This is how you go from a 55 win pace team in 2023 to a 15 win pace team in 2025 when your stars all leave
 
Cleveland receives: Kyle Kuzma, Rui Hachimura, Corey Kispert & '25 top 10 prot. first
Washington receives: Jarrett Allen & Dylan Windler

Why?
Cleveland gets players that fit better.
Washington gets an all-star big man who is still young.

You do realize without Jarrett Allen the defense becomes horrendous don't you? This trade makes us worse.
 
Chris Fedor says that the Cavs are monitoring Tim Hardaway Jr. I think he'd be a great addition. I have a trade idea involving the two teams.

Cleveland gets: THJ, DFS & Bertans
Dallas gets: Love & LeVert

Why?
Cleveland gets some much-needed wing depth & a big who can stretch the floor.
Dallas shaves a ton of salary for next year. They're deep into the tax, saves them an immense amount by getting rid of those guys.
 
Cleveland receives: Kyle Kuzma, Rui Hachimura, Corey Kispert & '25 top 10 prot. first
Washington receives: Jarrett Allen & Dylan Windler

Why?
Cleveland gets players that fit better.
Washington gets an all-star big man who is still young.
Kuzma is about to get seriously overpaid this summer. He's probably the single most overrated player on the trade market. The Wizards are looking to trade him because they don't want to pay him and they don't want to pay him because he can't guard SF and you can't win with him taking 18 shots a game. He's way too inefficient.

The other two guys can't even break into the starting rotation for the Wizards. This is terrible for the Cavs.
 

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