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Cavs defeat Warriors 4-3 in 2016 NBA Finals

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Who wins?

  • Cavs in 4

    Votes: 25 7.1%
  • Cavs in 5

    Votes: 34 9.7%
  • Cavs in 6

    Votes: 214 60.8%
  • Cavs in 7

    Votes: 25 7.1%
  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 15 4.3%
  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 18 5.1%
  • Warriors in 5

    Votes: 16 4.5%
  • Warriors in 4

    Votes: 5 1.4%

  • Total voters
    352
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Yep, I saw Andre Iguoadala logging major minutes while limping around the floor in game 6, then came back for game 7 and looked a lot better; but feel free not to care about that as well. :)
Yea I'll feel free not to care about that..... Cause, well, I couldn't care less.... They could all play in wheelchairs for all I care and I'd be more than pleased destroying them....
 
Then why did you reply to it?

Because it's a message board and you made a baiting post? Do you expect that only people that agree with you, which would be next to no one at this site, should reply to you?

You sound like a GS fan with this bull shit. Certainly no Cavs FAN that I know of.

PS- it's high time you stop trying to set the rules of a free message board on the internet. You made a post, you will get replies, and you don't get to control the tenor or the content of the replies outside of making sure personal insults are kept out of things.

Put me on ignore if you want, I truly don't care. Just know I'll still be reading your posts and responding when I feel so inclined.
 
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curry wasn't anymore "banged up" than the typical player after a long season and a deep playoff run.


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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoxxMN8gNA
 
They were up 3-1 .

There was no discussion about him or anyone else being 'banged" up then. Rather it was about how the Cavs couldn't do this, the Warriors were unbeatable. You know all these other talking points that no longer exist.

They were AT Oracle.

You could not ask for a better "close out" scenario. And they couldn't do it.
 
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Everyone is hurt that late in the postseason. As Steph said "not that it matters." He's acknowledged that the Cavs won the series and isn't in denial about it. I don't see what the big deal is.

I don't know why being a Cavs fan means we need to hate every single thing Steph says or does. Isn't it possible to be a basketball fan who was born in Cleveland is a die-hard Cavs fan?
 
Cavs won, end of story. No one cared about last year's narrative of us missing guys, no one is going to care about what happened during the series other than we won after being down 3-1.
Not directing this at you, but comparing what happened to us last year and the Warriors this year is a false equivalency.

I don't mean to get off on a rant here, but ...

Kevin Love struggled at times in the 2016 series, but he is still fundamentally vital to the way our team is structured. Even if he isn't hitting shots, when he is not on the court, it makes the others easier to guard ... especially when his minutes are being divided between James Jones and Shawn Marion.

Love's ability to spread the floor and still be a bull on the glass cannot be replicated. Toss in his other assets like very good vision/ability to keep the ball moving and that alone was a massive loss for an entire seven game series. Just like what happened in 2016, if he would have played in 2015, he would have had his spotlight moments. And, the rest of the time, he'd be quietly playing his role and making things easier for our other guys.

I would argue that Love would have been even more important last year, because the Warriors didn't really figure out the "lineup of death" thing that gave him so many problems until we were up 2-1. It was a desperation maneuver that, luckily for Kerr, worked out far better than he ever dreamed.

But, prior to that, when they were more of a conventional lineup, Love would have had a much easier time playing against them.

We missed out on all of it and there was not even a semi-suitable replacement.

Then there was Kyrie Irving. As we saw in 2016, he is completely indispensable and, with his injury (missing 6+ games in the series), it meant the end of any real chance we may have had with just Love out of the series. Delly did an admirable job, but he isn't close to Kyrie Irving, isn't used to being leaned on for heavy minutes and we had no backup point guard to help replicate the things that he would bring the team off the bench.

Throw Iman Shumpert in that injury pile too, and he had been having a very good playoffs up to that point with his pressure defense, ability to create turnovers translating to running opportunities and even a pretty consistent offensive contribution. He was also clearly playing injured with a pulled groin and an ankle (iirc) problem.


When people say things are now "even" and "well, we dealt with things last year and they had problems this year," they're completely bailing out the Warriors or attempting to cloud the reality.

The Warriors were as good as they were all season because of their depth. That's the first thing they had going for them this year that we did not last year.

Secondly, the injury problems and missed games weren't even in the same stratosphere.

They lost Green for one game, Bogut for 2 games and Curry was playing at something below 100%, apparently. The Green thing was completely his own doing and that's the price you ought to pay when you have a reckless athlete playing a huge role in your team's destiny. He should have been suspended in the OKC series, but justice finally found him. That is his fault and the Warriors' fault for relying on a guy like that... never once reining him in. Hell, he kicked Kyrie in the waning seconds of Game 7. The guy is flat-out reckless and he is going to seriously hurt someone at some point.

Bogut, while one of maybe 10-12 important cogs in their rotation, is unarguably not one of their most important five guys. He was averaging 11 minutes a game in The Finals prior to his missing the last two.

Curry was out there playing and doing 360 dunks in warmups.

Textbook false equivalency that the national media will no doubt continue to exploit.
 
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Not directing this at you, but comparing what happened to us last year and the Warriors this year is a false equivalency.

I don't mean to get off on a rant here, but ...

Kevin Love struggled at times in the 2016 series, but he is still fundamentally vital to the way our team is structured. Even if he isn't hitting shots, when he is not on the court, it makes the others easier to guard ... especially when his minutes are being divided between James Jones and Shawn Marion.

Love's ability to spread the floor and still be a bull on the glass cannot be replicated. Toss in his other assets like very good vision/ability to keep the ball moving and that alone was a massive loss for an entire seven game series. Just like what happened in 2016, if he would have played in 2015, he would have had his spotlight moments. And, the rest of the time, he'd be quietly playing his role and making things easier for our other guys.

I would argue that Love would have been even more important last year, because the Warriors didn't really figure out the "lineup of death" thing that gave him so many problems until we were up 2-1. It was a desperation maneuver that, luckily for Kerr, worked out far better than he ever dreamed.

But, prior to that, when they were more of a conventional lineup, Love would have had a much easier time playing against them.

We missed out on all of it and there was not even a semi-suitable replacement.

Then there was Kyrie Irving. As we saw in 2016, he is completely indispensable and, with his injury (missing 6+ games in the series), it meant the end of any real chance we may have had with just Love out of the series. Delly did an admirable job, but he isn't close to Kyrie Irving, isn't used to being leaned on for heavy minutes and we had no backup point guard to help replicate the things that he would bring the team off the bench.

Throw Iman Shumpert in that injury pile too, and he had been having a very good playoffs up to that point with his pressure defense, ability to create turnovers translating to running opportunities and even a pretty consistent offensive contribution. He was also clearly playing injured with a pulled groin and an ankle (iirc) problem.


When people say things are now "even" and "well, we dealt with things last year and they had problems this year," they're completely bailing out the Warriors or attempting to cloud the reality.

The Warriors were as good as they were all season because of their depth. That's the first thing they had going for them this year that we did not last year.

Secondly, the injury problems and missed games weren't even in the same stratosphere.

They lost Green for one game, Bogut for 2 games and Curry was playing at something below 100%, apparently. The Green thing was completely his own doing and that's the price you ought to pay when you have a reckless athlete playing a huge role in your team's destiny. He should have been suspended in the OKC series, but justice finally found him. That is his fault and the Warriors' fault for relying on a guy like that... never once reining him in. Hell, he kicked Kyrie in the waning seconds of Game 7. The guy is flat-out reckless and he is going to seriously hurt someone at some point.

Bogut, while one of maybe 10-12 important cogs in their rotation, is unarguably not one of their most important five guys. He was averaging 11 minutes a game in The Finals prior to his missing the last two.

Curry was out there playing and doing 360 dunks in warmups.

Textbook false equivalency that the national media will no doubt continue to exploit.
Great damn post
 
No body on the cavaliers was 100%

If you play the game injuries are no excuse

Love and Irving (one game) didn't play therefore that's a reason

Everyone in the finals is injured. No player is 100%

Mozgov looked 100%. But not playing much will help.
 
Watching Game 7, 4th quarter and all? He' s still hitting his bullshit threes. I've seen a couple players from the Cavs play injured and they would never be able to do such a thing.

It actually comes from a bizarre place of disrespect. There's no way in hell this narrative is being played up had they won in Game 5, Game 6 or Game 7. No way.

I shutter to even think what that narrative would sound like. In fact I don't even want to know. Somethings are not worth even thinking about.

But the media and the GS fanboys seem to enjoy nuthugging these guys. Rather than admit they got outplayed in HISTORIC fashion by one of the GOAT's? They're trying to make excuses about it. ("We'd would have WON if the refs..." "THEY SUSPENDED DRAYMOND!", "Well you see Curry wasn't 100 percent).

The fact of the matter is...The Cavs found a way to win a title despite an absurd amount of odds against them. Historically great regular season team looking to repeat? Check. Matched up horribly against them prior to these finals? Check. Cleveland Sports Curse weighing down on them, and their own star player? Check. Cavs FIRED their head coach midseason and replaced them with a guy who's never been a HC before? Check. Down 3-1 which no other team has ever come back from? Cehck. Playing Game 7 at Oracle? Check.

By all logic, there no way in hell the Warriors should have walked away with anything less than the O'Brien. But they did.
 
It is just very satisfying to know that the cavs are nba champs and no ifs or buts can take it away from them or the fans. I don't know how good the Warriors will be maybe they win the next 3 championships hopefully they implode but whatever happens they can't avoid the fact that they choked away a championship and were embarrassed on their home court. It couldn't happen to a nice bunch of douches
 
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