Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[daytripper]

I think the train may have left the station last year if they wanted to get a big haul for Collin. I personally think the worse decision at this point would be to panic and trade him for parts. The best course of action may be to get him to accept a reasonable extension if at all possible. In that case the door would still be open to deal him down the line too. Maybe they just let him test RFA next offseason like what the Pels did with Lonzo and the Hawks with Collins. With non scorers Okoro, Allen, and potentially Mobley on the roster it would alleviate some of the scoring load to still have Collin on the roster next season.

 

[sailfish]

I'm totally on board with keeping Sexton if we draft Mobley. Use Nance, Cedi, Prince and future protected picks as ammo to get a better fit at SF. Would love to somehow get back into the draft for Wagner,Kispert, J. Johnson or Giddey.

Garland
Sexton
Okoro
2nd 1st round Pick - Wagner,Kispert, J. Johnson or Giddey
Love
Mobley
Allen
Hartenstein

Obviously we'd need to add some pieces to that and we'd likely still have Prince or Cedi but that roster is looking pretty good.

I’m intrigued by keeping Sexton & trading Garland for another top pick, in an effort to land a point forward, like Scottie Barnes. That lessens the need for a true point guard and Sexton can share the backcourt with Okoro.

 

[ajs1028]

That does not change the fact that he wants better players around him either there buddy. I love how people think Sextons problems are anything more than not trusting his teammates.

Who was Sexton suppose to trust for most of the season other than Garland ? The Cavs roster has no one that can get their own shot or even someone that was reliable as a spot up shooter. The whole roster needs a make over. It was poorly constructed.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Who was Sexton suppose to trust for most of the season other than Garland ? The Cavs roster has no one that can get their own shot or even someone that was reliable as a spot up shooter. The whole roster needs a make over. It was poorly constructed.

If fairness to the Cavs, we had a shit-ton of injuries. Love, Nance, and Windler, all of whom were supposed to be plus shooters from three, all missed substantial time.

 

[CavsKermit]

That does not change the fact that he wants better players around him either there buddy. I love how people think Sextons problems are anything more than not trusting his teammates.

Maybe people aren't convinced that Sexton's ball dominance or play style are solely functions of him not trusting his teammates? It will be interesting to see how Sexton adjusts to a different offensive role if he's traded. It will be interesting to see how he might respond to a coaching staff that demands he exert more effort and focus on defense.

When LBJ re-signed here, and the Cavs game plan was to get Love going early that first year, Kyrie wanted no part of it. The Nets have Harden playing PG for a reason.

 

[Boobie4Three]

Collin Sexton, the only guy in the NBA to shrink 2 inches coming into the NBA. Must have been wearing elevator shoes back in college/HS and the bloggers must have gotten paid to elevate his height. What a difference 6'3'' to 6'1'' makes in the eyes of the fans and evaluators. But it must be because NBA players are now measured barefoot for true height, so it is possible he is a high 6'2-6'3 in shoes.

6'3'' reference: https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2018/06/12/collin-sexton-nba-draft-profile/

6'3'' reference: http://www.nbascoutingreport.net/player-profiles-collin-sexton.html

63'' reference: https://nbadraftroom.com/collin-sexton-nba-draft-scouting-report/

Although most other outlets had him at 6'2, it's astonishing he's now all of the sudden an undersized 6'1 SG bench spark-plug. But he's a legit 6'1 now at least!

 

[inliner311]

Maybe people aren't convinced that Sexton's ball dominance or play style are solely functions of him not trusting his teammates? It will be interesting to see how Sexton adjusts to a different offensive role if he's traded. It will be interesting to see how he might respond to a coaching staff that demands he exert more effort and focus on defense.

When LBJ re-signed here, and the Cavs game plan was to get Love going early that first year, Kyrie wanted no part of it. The Nets have Harden playing PG for a reason.

I think Kyrie has realize what role suits him the best. Harden playing PG was something that him and Kyrie worked out between them. Remember Kyrie was mysteriously gone from the Nets when Harden was traded there. When he finally came back they said him and Harden had worked out their roles on the team.

 

[CavsKermit]

I think Kyrie has realize what role suits him the best. Harden playing PG was something that him and Kyrie worked out between them. Remember Kyrie was mysteriously gone from the Nets when Harden was traded there. When he finally came back they said him and Harden had worked out their roles on the team.

I think Kyrie is a who he is and that's a guy who is going to play the way he wants to play. He's an elite scorer who contributes almost nothing else on the court. It worked when he played alongside LBJ and Durant (and now Harden). It did not work out so well in Boston even though he had other talented guys on that team.

 

[Boobie4Three]

I think Kyrie is a who he is and that's a guy who is going to play the way he wants to play. He's an elite scorer who contributes almost nothing else on the court. It worked when he played alongside LBJ and Durant (and now Harden). It did not work out so well in Boston even though he had other talented guys on that team.

I don't think Kyrie wants to just be this ball hog gunner anymore, he's a career 6 assist guy so I think he enjoyed being the lead dog facilitator, but yes now that Harden is in town, that puts him in a tough spot because Harden is better as a maestro facilitator. Now it seems Kyrie's role has now become more of a specialist scorer.

 

[Cavatt]

I guess you forgot when the Celtics made it to the ECF when Kyrie missed the entire playoffs or when the Nets still made the playoffs when he missed most of the season.

Kyrie’s a great number 2, but he’s not a good number 1 if your goal is to win a title or advance in the playoffs. I think his ceiling as “the man” was a 2nd round exit. LeBron ultimately saved Kyrie from riding the struggle bus for years with Waiters, TT, Bennett, and Wiggins. That group would’ve been hot garbage and likely never sniffed the playoffs barring some major trade.

I think this about Sexton. I think he is a #2 option behind someone with a better feel for the game, but maybe can't finish a game like he can.

Whose legs do you trust more at the end of a game than Sexton? Even in the whole league? He literally shoots better in crunch time and has spots he can get to at anytime and shoot a high percentage.

Maybe Mobley is that guy. Keeps you in it, raises your playmaking floor, raises your defensive floor, scores some points, but isn't a go to guy in the crunch.

 

[ryanf]

I think this about Sexton. I think he is a #2 option behind someone with a better feel for the game, but maybe can't finish a game like he can.

Whose legs do you trust more at the end of a game than Sexton? Even in the whole league? He literally shoots better in crunch time and has spots he can get to at anytime and shoot a high percentage.

Maybe Mobley is that guy. Keeps you in it, raises your playmaking floor, raises your defensive floor, scores some points, but isn't a go to guy in the crunch.

Similar to middleton. Giannis makes a game out of it, but it's middleton who creates when it's crunch time.

 

[Cavatt]

Similar to middleton. Giannis makes a game out of it, but it's middleton who creates when it's crunch time.

I was gonna say that but didn't want to get harpooned. We have seen over an over again how imperfect guys can really contribute. I was against trading for JR for instance, but he was crucial in scoring opportunistic points, and surprisingly keeping Klay in check.

It's not about having the perfect team it is about having a team that covers for each other and plays to strengths and minimizes weaknesses. Also, if this team had a run like the Hawks just did I would pinch myself. On the edge of your seat for a championship means teetering for 50 years if the last one is any indication.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Collin Sexton, the only guy in the NBA to shrink 2 inches coming into the NBA. Must have been wearing elevator shoes back in college/HS and the bloggers must have gotten paid to elevate his height. What a difference 6'3'' to 6'1'' makes in the eyes of the fans and evaluators. But it must be because NBA players are now measured barefoot for true height, so it is possible he is a high 6'2-6'3 in shoes.

6'3'' reference: https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2018/06/12/collin-sexton-nba-draft-profile/

6'3'' reference: http://www.nbascoutingreport.net/player-profiles-collin-sexton.html

63'' reference: https://nbadraftroom.com/collin-sexton-nba-draft-scouting-report/

Although most other outlets had him at 6'2, it's astonishing he's now all of the sudden an undersized 6'1 SG bench spark-plug. But he's a legit 6'1 now at least!

At the combine he measured 6'0.5" without shoes, 6'1.5" with shoes.

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Your entire post is misguided. You might want to get your facts straight before you start disparaging everyone you disagree with.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

I think this about Sexton. I think he is a #2 option behind someone with a better feel for the game, but maybe can't finish a game like he can.

Whose legs do you trust more at the end of a game than Sexton? Even in the whole league? He literally shoots better in crunch time and has spots he can get to at anytime and shoot a high percentage.

Maybe Mobley is that guy. Keeps you in it, raises your playmaking floor, raises your defensive floor, scores some points, but isn't a go to guy in the crunch.

Yeah I wholeheartedly agree, and I think the debate is is it smart to sign a #2 guy to a big-time contract if you’re still searching for #1? I think if the Cavs were confident they were getting a LeBron or Zion type player out of this draft where they were expecting a significant immediate impact and believed that guy to be a true #1 option, they’d be offering Sexton an extension now.

Obviously things are even more complicated with Garland on the roster, but I think the main hesitancy is they don’t want to commit major money to a #2 option and potentially limit themselves down the road when it comes to trying to acquire a #1 type guy. The other roster fit issues are obviously a consideration as well.

 

[guitarguy]

This is a confusing statement:


I’m not sure how you demand an All Star for a player that has yet to be an All Star? Granted, he’s been on the cusp. It suggests maybe you’re over-valuing your guy a bit? I just hope the Cavs don’t settle for some lesser veteran player just because Koby is feeling the heat and they want to win now.

If someone has to go, I wouldn’t be against trading Garland, whose value is probably at an all-time high after playing for the USA Select team. He might fetch the top pick that Sexton can’t/won’t, at this point.

I think because we know if Sexton played for a big market he would have been an all star easily this year.