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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%

  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
Literally nothing Collin has done outside of a 15 minute stretch on opening night has been remotely impressive in Utah and I'm so glad he's gone. Giving up Lauri was tough, but getting Sexton out of here was an absolute blessing. Addition by subtraction even without factoring Mitchell in.
 
AZCavs said:
This is such nonsense. He employs his agent. He's in charge of it all.
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Theoretically? OK... realistically? Not really.

Cavs were not in contact with Sexton. Klutch does all thr negotiations. You think Sexton has any clue about the business side of basketball? He would agree with anything Rich advised him to do according to whatever he thought he was worth.

Do you think Noel declined the 70m contract he had received? Ofcourse not. It was Klutch. Rich was advising him and he let them do all the negotiating. Rich thought he would get a max contract and he was dead wrong. Noel would have been fine with 70...him suing Klutch didn't go too well though.

Anyways, from all the reading that I have done, Sexton doesn't even spend his money.
He doesn't not care about all the superficial bullshit. He is a different breed. He wants to ball and to get the most playing time. Cavs wouldn't give him the money or the playing time. They acted in good faith and traded him to a team that would do both. Good for him and I hope he recovers.
 
Sir'Dom Pointer said:
Theoretically? OK... realistically? Not really.

Cavs were not in contact with Sexton. Klutch does all thr negotiations. You think Sexton has any clue about the business side of basketball? He would agree with anything Rich advised him to do according to whatever he thought he was worth.

Do you think Noel declined the 70m contract he had received? Ofcourse not. It was Klutch. Rich was advising him and he let them do all the negotiating. Rich thought he would get a max contract and he was dead wrong. Noel would have been fine with 70...him suing Klutch didn't go too well though.

Anyways, from all the reading that I have done, Sexton doesn't even spend his money.
He doesn't not care about all the superficial bullshit. He is a different breed. He wants to ball and to get the most playing time. Cavs wouldn't give him the money or the playing time. They acted in good faith and traded him to a team that would do both. Good for him and I hope he recovers.
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Collin Sexton, like every other athlete on planet earth, has control over who handles all of his business. It's not about having a clue regarding the business side of basketball. Most athletes don't. They do have autonomy over who controls it. You're pretending like he has no say in it at all which is just laughable. If he wasn't about money, why have a high profile, historically stubborn agency like Klutch?

"He is a different breed"

LOL STOP
 
AZCavs said:
"He is a different breed"

LOL STOP
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I dunno - I think there is truth in that if you read all the stories about his obsessive focus on everything basketball to the exclusion of a lot of the other things in which professional athletes tend to get involved.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
I dunno - I think there is truth in that if you read all the stories about his obsessive focus on everything basketball to the exclusion of a lot of the other things in which professional athletes tend to get involved.
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The Human Q-Tip said:
I dunno - I think there is truth in that if you read all the stories about his obsessive focus on everything basketball to the exclusion of a lot of the other things in which professional athletes tend to get involved.
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Being obsessed with working at your craft doesn't make you a "different breed" though. Anyone 30 and older has seen countless versions of Collin Sexton enter the league since the mid 90's. There are countless athletes and prospects from AAU through the pros that have that exact approach as Sexton does with supposed basketball obsession. It's nothing new.

Collin Sexton is not really a "different breed" as much as he is a poor carbon copy of an early 2000's iso-baller that creates points and nice numbers but doesn't contribute to long-term winning basketball.
 
AZCavs said:
Being obsessed with working at your craft doesn't make you a "different breed" though. Anyone 30 and older has seen countless versions of Collin Sexton enter the league since the mid 90's. There are countless athletes and prospects from AAU through the pros that have that exact approach as Sexton does with supposed basketball obsession. It's nothing new.

Collin Sexton is not really a "different breed" as much as he is a poor carbon copy of an early 2000's iso-baller that creates points and nice numbers but doesn't contribute to long-term winning basketball.
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I'll just disagree, and leave it at that.
 
I’m Sextons biggest fan but Mitchell is a new breed.

With just Mitchell and no sexton or Garland it’s possible we win that play in game last year.


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Kizzle said:
I’m Sextons biggest fan but Mitchell is a new breed.

With just Mitchell and no sexton or Garland it’s possible we win that play in game last year.


Levels to this shut
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Mitchell does a much better job moving the ball and playing well off of it. He had one less assist in last night's game than Sexton has total all season. Granted he's played 100 more minutes than Sexton, he's still averaging 6.8 assists every 36 minutes, which is close to double Collin's per 36 average. And as much as we heard that Mitchell was a defensive liability, I have seen more in 6 games to show he has the tools to be a great defender than I saw in 3+ seasons with Collin.
 
That Lakers/Jazz game last night was so much fun. Lebron was not happy but he made his own bed with that Laker team.

Collin looked really good hitting open 3's in rhythm, passing the ball and moving without it. Made a couple of very nice assists and was in there grabbing boards too. He was a one man wrecking crew in the 2nd quarter. Jazz are doing something right with him.

Of course bad Collin comes out in the second half. He made a few bad decisions (turnover, unnecessary step back 3) and their coach promptly benches his ass. Honestly it's something the Cavs should've done with him from year 1 instead of rewarding him with more unearned minutes.

It looks like a great trade for both teams. Cavs obviously got the best player and Donovan is probably a top 5 MVP candidate at this point. When you add up all the quarters the Jazz got in Lauri, Sexton, Agbaji, picks it might add up to more than the dollar but in the NBA you always take the better player.
 
daytripper said:
That Lakers/Jazz game last night was so much fun. Lebron was not happy but he made his own bed with that Laker team.

Collin looked really good hitting open 3's in rhythm, passing the ball and moving without it. Made a couple of very nice assists and was in there grabbing boards too. He was a one man wrecking crew in the 2nd quarter. Jazz are doing something right with him.

Of course bad Collin comes out in the second half. He made a few bad decisions (turnover, unnecessary step back 3) and their coach promptly benches his ass. Honestly it's something the Cavs should've done with him from year 1 instead of rewarding him with more unearned minutes.

It looks like a great trade for both teams. Cavs obviously got the best player and Donovan is probably a top 5 MVP candidate at this point. When you add up all the quarters the Jazz got in Lauri, Sexton, Agbaji, picks it might add up to more than the dollar but in the NBA you always take the better player.
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We gave Sexton and Okoro tons of minutes because the other options were worse, not because they were 30+ mpg players. Okoro in particular played way too many minutes his rookie year but we had a lot of weak players on the roster.

If Sexton was still on our roster now he would be lucky to get 22 mpg.

Okoro was inevitably going to lose minutes with the roster upgrade as well.
 
The jazz are fielding a starting line up of our castaways. It's a beautiful sight to see.
 
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