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Manfred understood that Bauer would appeal any suspension, no matter what the length. And he knew the likelihood of an arbiter shortening that suspension was fairly high. He did what any good negotiator would do...level a suspension so long that, once shortened, would end up where it should be.

There were folks on here who insisted that the suspension wouldn't last beyond the 2021 season, and at worst Bauer would pitch at some point in 2022. From the beginning that was unlikely, except for his apologists. As it now stands, Bauer will miss an entire season and parts of two others.

There were also several apologists that insisted that his talent would mean that multiple teams would be in line to pick him up as soon as the Dodgers dropped him. Although there is still time for somebody to risk taking him on, that did not happen.

Per the collective bargaining agreement, teams are very limited on what they can say negatively about free agents, but a lot of teams have in roundabout ways signaled that they will have nothing to do with Bauer. He certainly is not gonna be signed by the Dodgers, Arizona, Cleveland, Cincinnati, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston, and both NY teams.

If you do not take into consideration recent societal changes, Bauers suspension can be labeled unfair, because it is much longer than any other handed out under the prohibitions against domestic violence. But you could also label the first suspensions for PED use as unfair, simply because the use of steroids...even though against the rules...was previously wide-spread and allowed thru non enforcement. Those that defend Bauers actions as somehow permissible in today's society should remember that racial taunting in baseball used to be considered normal bench jockeying. Today, it would get a player suspended, and without expressed regret, maybe even banned...whether thru an MLB sanction, or the fact that no team would touch him. In the end, society decides what actions are permissible, and what actions are subject to accountability.

Since we don't yet know how the MLB investigation of Clevinger will come out, we don't know the length of his suspension, or even if he will receive one. As in the Bauer case, any decision by MLB will depend on its judgment of the veracity of the claims against him. Since MLB does not make public its findings, we will not accurately be able to judge the 'fairness' of Clevinger's suspension...if there is one...vis a vis Bauer's.

The fact that the criminal justice system does not hand out a verdict or even a charge makes no difference. The criminal justice system is dependent upon a far different level of proof than does a system of civil justice.

Ask OJ about that.
 
So far, just about everything that I suggested could happen to Bauer has happened.
 
Wonder if we'll end up facing him this season.. FWIW I actually thought he had a decent shot of landing in Korea/Japan..

 
So it looks like the White Sox have reported to camp and had a mandatory practice. Can't see anywhere where Clevinger was barred from showing up.

Does anyone know ??

Or is it MLB hypocrisy on steroids already ???
 
And even though he isn't an ex Indian, same topic so it seems to be fitting here in some ways - looks like the Mets outfielder - Khalil Lee - has been allowed to report and he was actually charged ???

If the MLB is SO CONCERNED about their domestic violence and sexual assualt policy => What am I missing here ?
 
And even though he isn't an ex Indian, same topic so it seems to be fitting here in some ways - looks like the Mets outfielder - Khalil Lee - has been allowed to report and he was actually charged ???

If the MLB is SO CONCERNED about their domestic violence and sexual assualt policy => What am I missing here ?
Headlines, baby.
 
And even though he isn't an ex Indian, same topic so it seems to be fitting here in some ways - looks like the Mets outfielder - Khalil Lee - has been allowed to report and he was actually charged ???

If the MLB is SO CONCERNED about their domestic violence and sexual assualt policy => What am I missing here ?

Probably best to put elsewhere in a sense...

Manfred hates Bauer and just needed the excuse to get him out of baseball
 
Probably best to put elsewhere in a sense...

Manfred hates Bauer and just needed the excuse to get him out of baseball
Why bother you and Benway probably already said everything there is to say.

Unequal treatment in the MLB is just fine with teams, the MLB's office and the press that is the leach off them.
And probably for plenty of fans also, like some of the people who post here
 
Why bother you and Benway probably already said everything there is to say.

Unequal treatment in the MLB is just fine with teams, the MLB's office and the press that is the leach off them.
And probably for plenty of fans also, like some of the people who post here

I was the one who said Bauer had way to harsh of a penalty and from now on players need to get equal or the league was purposely targeting Bauer because of actions towards Manfred...

Hopefully MLB will fix their act...
 
I was the one who said Bauer had way to harsh of a penalty and from now on players need to get equal or the league was purposely targeting Bauer because of actions towards Manfred...

Hopefully MLB will fix their act...
Not targeted at you. So if that is the way it read, excuse me. But there are others ...

And MLB get there act together, that is a real laugher. They like it just the way it is. But it is spring and they say hope springs eternal, so I guess there is that.

Nope the press refuses to write any other narrative than they one they want. True or untrue, slanted or not. And the MLB knows how to play with them. A symbiotic dance that they both like to much to actually try and level the playing field. If the press is outraged about Atlanta, move the all star game. And if the press pounds the drum about one player and not another ..... And MLB doesn't have to worry about unequal treatment because the press isn't going to come after them, and that is just fine with them.
 
Not targeted at you. So if that is the way it read, excuse me. But there are others ...

And MLB get there act together, that is a real laugher. They like it just the way it is. But it is spring and they say hope springs eternal, so I guess there is that.

Nope the press refuses to write any other narrative than they one they want. True or untrue, slanted or not. And the MLB knows how to play with them. A symbiotic dance that they both like to much to actually try and level the playing field. If the press is outraged about Atlanta, move the all star game. And if the press pounds the drum about one player and not another ..... And MLB doesn't have to worry about unequal treatment because the press isn't going to come after them, and that is just fine with them.

Sadly not much a single person can do about it... This isn't the site to get the news out, but maybe there is a way to get out all this info in a legit manner to see if you can get the attention of the media to say something about it. Social media? Fan publishing sport sites? Find a way to be sincere and honest while hoping it works. This site isn't one, since we all know your opinion, but only Cleveland does in a sense...
 
Sadly not much a single person can do about it... This isn't the site to get the news out, but maybe there is a way to get out all this info in a legit manner to see if you can get the attention of the media to say something about it. Social media? Fan publishing sport sites? Find a way to be sincere and honest while hoping it works. This site isn't one, since we all know your opinion, but only Cleveland does in a sense...
With the NYY's losing Montas for the year (most likely).. maybe Bauer can take his act to the Bronx where he'll be nothing special..
 
Sadly not much a single person can do about it... This isn't the site to get the news out, but maybe there is a way to get out all this info in a legit manner to see if you can get the attention of the media to say something about it. Social media? Fan publishing sport sites? Find a way to be sincere and honest while hoping it works. This site isn't one, since we all know your opinion, but only Cleveland does in a sense...
Not really interested in "trying to get the news" out. Just interested in seeing what some of the people here have to say. Because like you, I know there opinion. And it is interesting enough, to spend a little time, to see how they go about trying to "justify" the events. Or if they are able to just stand up and call a spade a spade.

Not a social justice warrior - no interst in that. And that is not what this part of the site is for anyway. But unequal treatment, or an explanation why it is not, is MLB business and a legit topic. One that does interest me some because of the way society does work today. And one that bouncing a topic off of folks that you know where they stand (to a large degree) is insightful. At least to me.
 

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