Game Thread | 2021-2022 Season | Game # 11 | Cavs @ Knickerbockers | Nov. 7, 2021

[Cavatt]

I think if this team keeps playing this way, we can pick up a good wing pretty easily.

Winning makes a lot of the pieces look good.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

One of the great things about the NBA is almost anyone can have a sick shooting night. If you're up against a player that hot there's really nothing you can do. Other than Cedi (who had been very hot) we were hitting threes at a ridiculous percentage. Knicks fought back hard in the 4th but we just kept scoring.

Almost anybody can have a sick shooting night but nobody in NBA history ever came off the bench to score 37 points with 10 assists and 8 threes. This was beyond sick.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

I think if this team keeps playing this way, we can pick up a good wing pretty easily.

Winning makes a lot of the pieces look good.

Windler has made 6 of his last 9 three-point attempts. He's at 50% for the season and 55% overall. I think he has a shot at being a "pretty good wing".

Winning happens because a lot of the pieces ARE good.

 

[Cassity14]

Exactly. Late first round draft picks are practically worthless. Can it with the Rubio trade talk.

I don't agree with this. Hell, the Cavs just gave one of them 100 million dollars.

Late first round picks give teams a way to add role players. So often, the guys who can contribute right away slide in the draft because they're older and more developed as prospects, but lack that star upside so many teams rely on.

Good teams find contributors late in the first round. That Cavs seem to have a core to build around, so they could be in position to add young talent around them via solid picks.

Windler could end up being proof of that.

 

[DirtyDan]

The Knicks starters really went through the motions this game on both sides of the floor. Was surprised there bench was doing more of the heavy lifting to keep them in the game.

I laugh when I see guards notice Mobley on them and try to challenge him. D-Rose learned the hard way

 

[Cavatt]

Windler has made 6 of his last 9 three-point attempts. He's at 50% for the season and 55% overall. I think he has a shot at being a "pretty good wing".

Winning happens because a lot of the pieces ARE good.

Yes, correct. Cedi has been very good as well. It isn't quite the weakness we thought. If Lauri can credibly play the 3 or someone can sub for him, that is great.

I do think at some point, it will be necessary to consolidate talent. More guys needs minutes. Keeping Windler and Wade on the bench doesn't make sense. Maybe injuries will continue to make them important pieces though.

 

[Muffinalt]

I just got the chance to watch the full game. Holy shit did we destroy them at the end lol. Amazing.

Was so fun to hear the guys doing the barking with the bench haha. Love that.

I liked the effort around screens from Garland. Gives some hope for him on defense.

Mobley's short roll passing is going to be a fucking weapon going forward man.

Great effort from everyone. How good is Rubio if he's shooting like this btw? That's almost an all star level.

 

[Ozone]

Rockets pick will be valuable at 31-35 for sure
gotta see if they can pry Cam Thomas from BKN asap
this team is going to be hurting without Sexton as a scoring threat as the season progresses imo even though he has been doing other things his scoring ability always had defenses focus

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Rockets pick will be valuable at 31-35 for sure
gotta see if they can pry Cam Thomas from BKN asap
this team is going to be hurting without Sexton as a scoring threat as the season progresses imo even though he has been doing other things his scoring ability always had defenses focus

What's the fascintation with this guy? He's playing behind Harden and Deandre Bembry, who averages 6.0 ppg for his career. He's played 18 minutes this season. He's a rookie picked at #27.

I honestly never heard of Thomas but I'd rather stick with Okoro and Windler replacing Sexton's 29 minutes a game, as well as upping Rubio's minutes from 28 to 32 and maybe increasing Garland's minutes by a couple.

We also don't know how long Sexton will be out. It might only be a few weeks.

 

[Ozone]

What's the fascintation with this guy? He's playing behind Harden and Deandre Bembry, who averages 6.0 ppg for his career. He's played 18 minutes this season. He's a rookie picked at #27.

I honestly never heard of Thomas but I'd rather stick with Okoro and Windler replacing Sexton's 29 minutes a game, as well as upping Rubio's minutes from 28 to 32 and maybe increasing Garland's minutes by a couple.

We also don't know how long Sexton will be out. It might only be a few weeks.

no fascination just a guy who is probably as available as Danny Green was here as a rook that can fill it up and is not getting ANY playing time that is meaningful for an org that went and depleted all tradeable draft assets for the next several seasons pushing it all in on a player in Harden who is really struggling with the rule change. Now they have no Irving and probably as is are not a true contender, but if they still think they are it's time to steal away a kid like Thomas before it is too expensive.
I mean they have signed multiple ring chasers all of whom will get minutes this season over Thomas because of the orgs dedication to NOW. I am inclined to think he could be gotten pretty reasonably if they get a win now useful injury insurance player back and or a high 2nd they can flip for one.
We will need continued improvement from others trying to step in for Sexton and they should be alright but it is less scoring overall having to fill that void, but the numbers don't tell the entire story this season with him for the attention teams had to give him or would have had to once his shot started falling. There really isn't anyone that can do what he could do on the court on this team even though so far this season it was on a far lesser scale than needed in previous seasons, the need for someone who can blow by anyone and be a key scorer off turnovers in transition is huge.
So unless you think Nembhard is a diamond on the bench waiting to be that guy, they should at least inquire about somebody like Thomas. Of course there is always Pangos but he aint that guy either

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

no fascination just a guy who is probably as available as Danny Green was here as a rook that can fill it up and is not getting ANY playing time that is meaningful for an org that went and depleted all tradeable draft assets for the next several seasons pushing it all in on a player in Harden who is really struggling with the rule change. Now they have no Irving and probably as is are not a true contender, but if they still think they are it's time to steal away a kid like Thomas before it is too expensive.
I mean they have signed multiple ring chasers all of whom will get minutes this season over Thomas because of the orgs dedication to NOW. I am inclined to think he could be gotten pretty reasonably if they get a win now useful injury insurance player back and or a high 2nd they can flip for one.
We will need continued improvement from others trying to step in for Sexton and they should be alright but it is less scoring overall having to fill that void, but the numbers don't tell the entire story this season with him for the attention teams had to give him or would have had to once his shot started falling. There really isn't anyone that can do what he could do on the court on this team even though so far this season it was on a far lesser scale than needed in previous seasons, the need for someone who can blow by anyone and be a key scorer off turnovers in transition is huge.
So unless you think Nembhard is a diamond on the bench waiting to be that guy, they should at least inquire about somebody like Thomas. Of course there is always Pangos but he aint that guy either

Who said anything about Nembhard or Pangos? We're talking about Okoro and Windler taking Sexton's minutes until he gets back, with maybe a little more court time for Garland and Rubio.

I'm assuming Thomas is a nugget they are developing for the future. Looking at the Nets roster, Harden is 32, Durant 33, Aldridge 36, Joe Harris 30, James Johnson 34, Patty Mills 33, and Paul Milsap 36. Win or lose they're going to need a lot of young blood in the next year or two and I doubt they're looking to move a guy like Thomas.

Also, do we know he can "fill it up"? He played one year in college and shot 40.6% from the field and 32.5% on 3's. And that's with a shorter 3-point line. Twenty-six players were drafted before him.

 

[Lee]

How good is Rubio if he's shooting like this btw? That's almost an all star level.

37 points on 7/8 shooting is almost an all star level? lol

Almost? So you have to do better to make the all star team than 37 points a game and 86.25% from 3? LMAO

 

[Muffinalt]

37 points on 7/8 shooting is almost an all star level? lol

Almost? So you have to do better to make the all star team than 37 points a game and 86.25% from 3? LMAO

Can't really expect him to shoot lights out like this obviously each game. But a version of Rubio with a consistent jump shot? How much money would that player even demand?

 

[CleveRocks]

Charlotte did too in the recent game. I counted the wing size players (6'6"-6'7") that played for them. Out of ten players 6 of them were wings and of the other 4 players two were PGs, and two centers with one of the latter only playing 4 minutes.

They are not going anywhere with Mason Plumlee as their starting center..

 

[macbdog]

The beginning of a love connection

I'm in love with Darius' jumper too