Let it all out. The Cavaliers Rant Thread

[cavsfever]

In retrospect it is looking like a mistake to rush a trade to try to maximize this year instead of making it all about development and next year

 

[CavsKermit]

I didn't like this rationale for acquiring Lavert - to fill temporary holes caused by injuries. At this point in this rebuild, I think we should have been focused on the longer term.



What do you expect "some value" to be? Because I don't like the idea of having given up a first round pick for a rental unless the rental is much better than Lavert.

cap space would be of some value at this point

 

[CavsKermit]

I just wanna drop my takes in here, where they belong. I'm not going to spend an hour and a half copy pasting advanced stats in this post. I also don't give a shit what the advanced stats say, since they all seem to be influenced by so many other unmeasured factors.

1. Most of us knew they were overachieving earlier in the year, which is why there was so much talk about strength of schedule. The only question towards the end of this year is by how much... Right now this team looks like they'll have had that ridiculous run early on just to finish 9th, which means they aren't even that good. All the while sacrificing much needed development for the sake of winning a couple extra games against depleted, unmotivated teams in December.

2. JBB is now, and has always been, shit offensively. I don't even have to qualify this one. This has been known around the league for as long as he's been doing anything. The fact that he refuses to address it seriously by trying to get some help smacks of a stubbornness that simply puts a ceiling on how good this team will ever be. Which leads me to:

3. He's running guys into the fucking dirt. And it's not good for their health and development. We've all seen it. And if we leave this fucking nutjob in charge of our lineups, then you've already witnessed Garland's peak. And Mobley may never reach his.

4. Caris LeVert is, in fact, trash. Giving up what looks like probably the 15th pick for this guy - and then still having to pay him, which we have to do because otherwise we handed that pick over for nothing - is a fucking tragedy. I mean, nobody's doing a SnT for this guy for anything of value so we literally flushed that asset down the toilet. Love Koby. But he fumbled that one badly.

As to No. 4 buying into the sunken cost fallacy would be the worse of all outcomes. Trade his expiring contract for someone else. Let him expire and bank the cap space when both Love and Cedi drop off the books. Whatever you do, don't pay him because of what you gave up for him. That's how you turn a mistake you can learn from into a mistake that haunts you for years.

 

[cavsfever]

It's early yet, but so far the "Koby is a genius" theory is taking a hit

 

[Typhoon]

It's early yet, but so far the "Koby is a genius" theory is taking a hit

idk. I think it's hard to judge when core players have been injured since December.

 

[bleedwineandgold03]

idk. I think it's hard to judge when core players have been injured since December.

If this team was remotely healthy we would be winning way more games

 

[Beanie4Heisman]

 

[CavsKermit]

I'm not unsympathetic, but every team has to deal with injuries/Covid and we knew Rubio wasn't coming back this season within hours of his injury. I was fine with Rondo as cost-free stopgap, but LeVert was the wrong target. Eric Gordon would've helped this team more. Cedi and Love shooting well above their career averages from 3 was unsustainable and it seems like the plan to account for that was to hope for the best.

 

[sailfish]

In retrospect it is looking like a mistake to rush a trade to try to maximize this year instead of making it all about development and next year

You're right, but the fans & media wanted a trade and most everyone saw our draft picks as expendable. Personally, I thought it was a bit early to start mortgaging the future for the present. The Pacers front office definitely won the LeVert trade.

 

[guitarguy]

Could have been a millionaire betting like a dollar Love would be the healthiest player this season....

 

[Green Lantern]

It's early yet, but so far the "Koby is a genius" theory is taking a hit

Altman is going to have learn that every young high drafted player who isn't being used that much is not always going to be a fit unless they are super exceptional at several things.
He's going to have to use more scutiny doing so.

 

[CavsKermit]

Altman is going to have learn that every young high drafted player who isn't being used that much is not always going to be a fit unless they are super exceptional at several things.
He's going to have to use more scutiny doing so.

Super exceptional at several things sounds like an all star, or even all NBA to me. That bar seems rather high.

 

[Cement]

 

[cabs]

what can go wrong will go wrong for this team apart from that 2016 season

 

[sailfish]

Altman is going to have learn that every young high drafted player who isn't being used that much is not always going to be a fit unless they are super exceptional at several things.
He's going to have to use more scutiny doing so.

Well, apparently the Cavs are now in the mode of giving draft picks away like it's Halloween candy. Just ask Kevin Pritchard and the Pacers.