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CBBI said:
Condon in SEC play

15 games played.

.414 BA, 1.482 OPS, 24-58, 9 HR, 20 RBI, 13 BB, 12 K, .534 OBP.

So yes, he's had a very slight downtick against SEC competition, but not a significant one.

And according to Warren Nolan, the SEC is a significantly tougher baseball conference this year than the Pac-12.
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The stats don't add up, not enough ABs

His drop off is also significantly worse than Bazzanas.
 
KFlash_12 said:
For crying out loud people, it doesn't run much deeper than the numbers than you keep telling us so you can force your favorite prospect down our throats.

I don't believe Montgomery is that firmly in the mix and Montgomery played okay, but not great in cape cod. His power was definitely non existent with just 5 XBH and only 1 of those being a home run. Bazzana was league MVP with 6 home runs. Also more than Condon.

Condons average exit velo this year is 95.6 to Bazzanas 95.8.

the numbers literally tell us everything we want to know. Your opinion ddoesn't. Stop trying to tell us that Condon does things better when he doesn't. You don't need to prop him up so much.
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I see you have difficulty in comprehension as well. I don't have a favorite to be honest and a lot can change between now and draft day.

No, the numbers don't actually tell you "everything we want to know", but it's your story so don't let me get in the way of it.

I'm not "propping" Condon up. I simply countered all the final decisions that Bazzana is the pick.
 
KFlash_12 said:
I think Hagan Smith is also going to be way more in the discussion than we think. Big lefty pitcher averaging 93.8 and hit 98 on his fastball that's bettering some of Paul Skenes numbers
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I just don't see us going with a pitcher until 36 or our 2nd round pick...

This organization has shown they can essentially improve any pitcher with plus command and I expect a lot of pitching being taken in this draft (at least 12 if not more), but we don't have solid floor, high ceiling hitting talent which is what we gotta do with the number 1 pick...

With our first 5 picks... I personally want out of their with 2 college bats and 3 college pitchers... After that It's the BPA of who you believe you can sign... I think we will gamble with more above slots late as well with our large bonus pool.
 
sportscoach said:
This organization has shown they can essentially improve any pitcher with plus command and I expect a lot of pitching being taken in this draft (at least 12 if not more), but we don't have solid floor, high ceiling hitting talent which is what we gotta do with the number 1 pick...
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I think Robert Arias, Chourio and Francisca and maybe Brito will be offended a bit ... but I get your point.
 
KFlash_12 said:
The stats don't add up, not enough ABs

His drop off is also significantly worse than Bazzanas.
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He has 13 walks and 2 HBP's, so he has 73 PA's in 15 games. 4.87 PA's per game certainly adds up.
 
CBBI said:
Condon in SEC play

15 games played.

.414 BA, 1.482 OPS, 24-58, 9 HR, 20 RBI, 13 BB, 12 K, .534 OBP.

So yes, he's had a very slight downtick against SEC competition, but not a significant one.

And according to Warren Nolan, the SEC is a significantly tougher baseball conference this year than the Pac-12.
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I think that is the interesting analysis. I assume they are digging deep to look at ABs against guys likely to be drafted and guys that are seen as legit major league prospects. It does seem that Bazzana has done well against LHP which to me is critical, but does that drop-off in any significant way against the real good ones?
 
CalBuckeyeRob said:
I think that is the interesting analysis. I assume they are digging deep to look at ABs against guys likely to be drafted and guys that are seen as legit major league prospects. It does seem that Bazzana has done well against LHP which to me is critical, but does that drop-off in any significant way against the real good ones?
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Only one data point but Bazzana did K 3 times vs lefty Smith early this year
 
KFlash_12 said:
I think youre

I think you're overrating those other pitchers a lot. Or maybe you don't know who Smith is. Smith only has 17 walks in about 50 IP. He also has 89 Ks. Guys like Beam, Hartle, Brecht have way bigger control issues. Smith is also way closer to a 3/4s arm slot than sidewinder.

Saying Brecht would go ahead is the most wild thing I think this thread has lol dudes a 5th rounder that you hope to make into an elite closer at this stage.
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It's very clear you're not aware of the affect of what a motion can & will do for a pitcher's command.. Hagen is good pitcher.. he's not a great pitcher.. there's a difference.. Hagen's motion has the ball barely above his shoulder plane at extension. that's below 3/4 or slightly above sidewinder.. LOOK AT SOME FILM.. He struggles to get on top of the ball for his cutter or slider or whatever he calls it.. Add a crossfire approach and you're looking at command issues all day long.. Let someone else make a mistake and draft this guy that early.. The Guardians won't..

Brecht is a 2-48 - 4-113 guy.. His place being drafted belies his true talent.. this is a guy who has the kind of repertoire (two plus-plus weapons) and make up to be a back of the pen assassin at the highest levels of baseball.. If you want to know where I'd put a guy mentioned.. you should ask.. not assume..

Thoughts?
 
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Charlie Condon Draft Prospect Breakdown | Pitcher List

Charlie Condon is having a historic 2024 season, which could lead to an early selection in the Draft this July.
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"Travis Bazzana has some of the best barrel awareness of any prospect in recent memory. Braden Montgomery is regarded as arguably the best power-hitting prospect in this year’s class. Both of them individually will be top 5-10 picks this July. Condon combines Bazzana’s barrel skills with Montgomery’s power. Whichever type of prospect you prefer, whether it be contact first or power first, Condon is elite in both categories. That is the combination for a truly special talent."
 
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