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Yep, this was my thinking - 1B Bryce Harper not OF Bryce Harper
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I've said before Christian Walker is probably Condons upside. I think Carroll is a good comparison for Bazzana.
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I think his upside is higher than Walker, since Walker hasnt never good at BA... That being stated, I want more from a 1st pick, but it could be way worse....
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Walker has an elite glove too, so it does help balance out the low BA. While he isn't Carlos Santana with his BB/K ratio, it's not as dire as I thought.
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Walker is also 6' and he got to 21 HRs total in two college seasons...
People may hate me for it, but could Condon be closer to a more athletic Matt LaPorta when it comes to straight college numbers?
But Walker is a perennial 30-35 HR guy over the last 3 or 4 years. Condons swinging strike percentage isn't super flattering. You can't really compare Christian Walkers college stats to condons because it's clear Walkers worked on somethings to get better at.
I don't know that Condon was that much more athletic than LaPorta. LaPorta was given quite a few chances to play the OF in the minors.
I think law said it best, you're getting maybe above average defense out of him in his prime somewhere. That's not a great tale tell sign of a great athlete. Good athlete for being 6'6 220 sure.
2024 MLB Draft: Mock Draft 4.0
A new board means a new mock draft and here we are. Two months are in the books in college baseball and conference play is in full swing. A few guys are separating from the pack. This mock comes with some intel but it is still almost exclusively conjecture and hypotheticals. It does, however...
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1. Cleveland Guardians
Nick Kurtz, 1B — Wake Forest
HOMETOWN: Lancaster, PA
HEIGHT: 6-6
WEIGHT: 230
BAT/THROW: L-L
There’s some smoke here… We’re at the point in the 2024 draft cycle where bonus figures and hypothetical negotiations should be baked into the narrative. Realistically, there’s probably four guys that make sense for Cleveland here. Kurtz, Travis Bazzana, Charlie Condon, Jac Caglianone and Braden Montgomery. Someone is almost certainly going to be strong-handed into an under-slot deal.
But what does that look like? Assuming Bazzana and Condon both expect their floor to be Colorado at 3, they should expect ~$9 million to be their base case take-home. The slot value of the No 1 overall pick is ~$10.6 million. Would Bazzana or Condon take $9.8 million to be the first overall pick? That saves Cleveland ~$800,000. If Caglianone thinks his floor is pick 4 (slot value of ~$8.4 million) would he take $9.2 million and save Cleveland $1.4 million of pool dollars? Would Montgomery take ~$8.8 million and save Cleveland ~$1.75 million? Kurtz is largely thought to be a guy who goes 4, 5 or 6. Would he take $8 million and save Cleveland ~$2.6 million to spend elsewhere? There’s some whispers that’s a possibility.
This pick could come down to which player gives the Guardians the best haircut and allows them to stretch their pool. Kurtz entered the year clearly one of the three-best players in the country, and he’s playing as such once again. Don’t be surprised if his name is called here in July with a boatload of savings.
36. Cleveland Guardians
Payton Tolle, LHP — TCU
HOMETOWN: Yukon, OK
HEIGHT: 6-6
WEIGHT: 225
BAT/THROW: L-L
Tolle is a metric darling with a devastating fastball up to 97 featuring elite extension and a unicorn vertical approach angle. He’s precisely the type of arm that’s found success in Cleveland over the years; an organization that makes hay developing pitching. Tolle will need to continue developing a third pitch and reining in his control, but for now the fastball-slider combo gets hitters out at extreme clips. It’s middle-of-the-rotation upside.
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Bazzana to me is 2013 Jason Kipnis.
But that Kipnis over a very consistent long period of time.
I can't take any mock draft that says we are going to value slot money over bpa seriously lol2024 MLB Draft: Mock Draft 4.0
A new board means a new mock draft and here we are. Two months are in the books in college baseball and conference play is in full swing. A few guys are separating from the pack. This mock comes with some intel but it is still almost exclusively conjecture and hypotheticals. It does, however...
1. Cleveland Guardians
Nick Kurtz, 1B — Wake Forest
HOMETOWN: Lancaster, PA
HEIGHT: 6-6
WEIGHT: 230
BAT/THROW: L-L
There’s some smoke here… We’re at the point in the 2024 draft cycle where bonus figures and hypothetical negotiations should be baked into the narrative. Realistically, there’s probably four guys that make sense for Cleveland here. Kurtz, Travis Bazzana, Charlie Condon, Jac Caglianone and Braden Montgomery. Someone is almost certainly going to be strong-handed into an under-slot deal.
But what does that look like? Assuming Bazzana and Condon both expect their floor to be Colorado at 3, they should expect ~$9 million to be their base case take-home. The slot value of the No 1 overall pick is ~$10.6 million. Would Bazzana or Condon take $9.8 million to be the first overall pick? That saves Cleveland ~$800,000. If Caglianone thinks his floor is pick 4 (slot value of ~$8.4 million) would he take $9.2 million and save Cleveland $1.4 million of pool dollars? Would Montgomery take ~$8.8 million and save Cleveland ~$1.75 million? Kurtz is largely thought to be a guy who goes 4, 5 or 6. Would he take $8 million and save Cleveland ~$2.6 million to spend elsewhere? There’s some whispers that’s a possibility.
This pick could come down to which player gives the Guardians the best haircut and allows them to stretch their pool. Kurtz entered the year clearly one of the three-best players in the country, and he’s playing as such once again. Don’t be surprised if his name is called here in July with a boatload of savings.
36. Cleveland Guardians
Payton Tolle, LHP — TCU
HOMETOWN: Yukon, OK
HEIGHT: 6-6
WEIGHT: 225
BAT/THROW: L-L
Tolle is a metric darling with a devastating fastball up to 97 featuring elite extension and a unicorn vertical approach angle. He’s precisely the type of arm that’s found success in Cleveland over the years; an organization that makes hay developing pitching. Tolle will need to continue developing a third pitch and reining in his control, but for now the fastball-slider combo gets hitters out at extreme clips. It’s middle-of-the-rotation upside.
And if we are taking a bat for power, especially left handed, it will be Caglianone
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I don't think we will pick Kurtz personally not after the investment in Manzardo...
I almost feel like the way we have been rotating and using DH like we have, just works better in general for the organization. I'd rather see a complimentary piece to Manzardo than getting another Manzardo...
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1. That's 2-time AS Jason Kipnis
2. Basic stats (and removing his rookie year & last year), Kipnis yearly avg were
- .261 BA
- .329 OBP
- .411 SLG
- .741 OPS
- 135 hits
- 14.5 HR
- 64 RBIs
- 30 2B
- 2.5 3B