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Renaming the Cleveland baseball team (NOT FOR DEFENDING "INDIANS")

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It's incredible to me how overlooked Cuyahoga Valley National Park is by people here in Northeast Ohio. A true gem that should be celebrated more on a local level.
As a new resident to Brecksville, I wholeheartedly agree about the CVNP. To me it’s everybit equal to the Shenandoah NP area from where I came in terms of accessibility and beauty, just much smaller in size.
 
It's incredible to me how overlooked Cuyahoga Valley National Park is by people here in Northeast Ohio. A true gem that should be celebrated more on a local level.
It's so nice and has something for everybody. There are some sneaky good mountain bike trails in CVNP.
 
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Not directing this at you @NorthCoastBias but is anyone else tired of seeing former team names from the 19th century continue to pop up as though it's relevant? The Cleveland Forest Citys were founded just three years after the Civil War ended and folded seven years before Edison first patented the freaking light bulb. When the recent press release mentioned honoring the history of Cleveland baseball, I have to imagine it was in reference to history of the club that wasn't over 150 years ago.
Been my avatar the past several months.
 
Don’t love the logo… but everything else is very well done. Really like the colors and unis.
If it's Foresters, all they have to do is copy OU's baseball unis. Pretty sure they'd be one of the only teams in professional sports with a green and white primary color scheme outside of the Jets and As, so good company, I guess.

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Sadly for the people they are "alienating" they don't really matter that much for the success of the franchise in the future. And people in the area who already like baseball will still probably continue to like it even if they grumble and groan about a logo change.

By the way I don't really like the "3 key themes" very much but if we really want to go there:
1) Connect with the city of Cleveland - I think you'd be inflating the significance of bridge guardians to think that people think of them when they think of Cleveland today. I'm not from Cleveland but I asked people about them and they were kind of like huh.

2) Preserve our rich baseball history - I don't even get this one. It's not going anywhere but I don't know why we need to go full cryogenics on our current branding especially when the FO has taken the position that it's a mistake. I think those that don't believe it's a mistake will appreciate something similar to Guardians but:
a) They have little to do with baseball history per se, apart from proximity to stadium
b) Failed franchise or not, Spiders were one of the first baseball teams. Not what I'd be emphasizing at all but it's kind of cool.

3) Unite the community - Spiders are kind of universal. Baseball has a problem with young and black people (look at NFL/NBA in contrast) and Guardians would be furthering that trend. I think more in this demographic are interested in looking forward rather than backward at that old, white part of the past. The flexibility and possibilities with Spiders makes the historical origin kind of irrelevant.

I'm not even sure how to respond.

Spiders relates to young people and minorities?

Guardians would be looking back at the past/geared toward white people?

If you don't like Guardians that's fine, and I respect being pro-Spiders even if I hate that choice. But these are pretty huge (unsupported) leaps here.
 
I'm not even sure how to respond.

Spiders relates to young people and minorities?

Guardians would be looking back at the past/geared toward white people?

If you don't like Guardians that's fine, and I respect being pro-Spiders even if I hate that choice. But these are pretty huge (unsupported) leaps here.
Just dropping in here...

There was a suggestion to avoid the race topic earlier and I think it was a good idea. Not a web worth getting tangled in.

I’m the only person on the site who knows how to discuss it properly. A Guardian of race discussion if you will.
 
Just dropping in here...

There was a suggestion to avoid the race topic earlier and I think it was a good idea. Not a web worth getting tangled in.

I’m the only person on the site who knows how to discuss it properly. A Guardian of race discussion if you will.
Those are wise words coming from a Subaru.
 
Which year did you win the Most Influential Lesbian award from The Pennsylvania Chamber of Business and Industry? Was it 2016 or 2017?
My biker bar’s back lot has a section cordoned off for “Subarus Only” and my Sturgis gals get a real kick out of it when they cum in for Rally week.
 
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