Replacing Baker Mayfield: Poll

[Triplethreat]

Baker is better lol

 

[DirtyDan]

$35M is not a lot for a good starting QB like Kirk Cousins. QB contracts are quickly becoming the new NBA Max contracts. People are still looking at the numbers under the old cap and the old system. You have to look at it from the new money perspective.

We basically give up all over rollover cap space and available cap space for Cousins if I'm understanding correctly? Trading for him locks us into win now mode and makes it significantly more difficult to retain our guys. It also means Baker has to be moved too, either before or after the deal and it maybe not be easy to move him. It isn't as clear cut of a decision as we all want it to be.

Cousins makes as much as Pat Mahomes will make yearly next season in base salary. No matter how you try to frame it that is a tough pill to swallow and should be a big factor in whether we give them a first round pick or not.

 

[The Oi]

The Browns need to win now and they need at minimum an above average QB to do it.

Kirk Cousins is absolutely above average. What other options would they have at this point that they could realistically get?

I’d do it.

 

[Ohio]

Wait for the shoe to drop on Watson and Russ before you start offering a 1st for Cousins.

Ideally, sure, but I think we have to be realistic. I don't think either of them have much interest in coming to Cleveland for a number of reasons. Getting Watson, Wilson or Rodgers is a pipe dream, and if we have the opportunity to get Cousins without giving up too much, we can't afford to sit on our hands waiting for a miracle.

Again, trading Cousins isn't enough for that team/group of talent to be "tanking" bad.

This makes sense for Cleveland, but not for Minnesota. They're not going to give you Cousins out of charity.

True, especially if you're getting a healthy Baker back in the deal. You're probably looking at another season slightly under .500 in that instance, unless, like you said, you guys make additional rebuilding moves.

There's already plenty of Cousins chatter for a reason. What would it take to make sense for Minnesota, from your perspective? Baker + a 1st seems to be somewhat of a starting point.

 

[The Oi]

Why would Minnesota do this? Everyone saw how bad Baker was.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Why would Minnesota do this? Everyone saw how bad Baker was.

The addiction of feeling pain.

 

[The Oi]

The addiction of feeling pain.

Any burial grounds in the area for those guys or anything?

 

[BimboColesHair]

Any burial grounds in the area for those guys or anything?

The Vikings lost the Ed Thorp Trophy when it was still the NFL Championship and they've been raw dogged on national TV every post season appearance since.

 

[Los216]

We basically give up all over rollover cap space and available cap space for Cousins if I'm understanding correctly? Trading for him locks us into win now mode and makes it significantly more difficult to retain our guys. It also means Baker has to be moved too, either before or after the deal and it maybe not be easy to move him. It isn't as clear cut of a decision as we all want it to be.

Cousin makes as much as Pat Mahomes will make yearly next season in base salary. No matter how you try to frame it that is a tough pill to swallow and should be a big factor in whether we give them a first round pick or not.

We're already in win now mode and trading for a QB making Kirk Cousins money doesn't make retaining our guys more difficult then it would've been had Baker been good enough to get an extension in the first place.

 

[Real Deal]

Keep in mind anything we trade we are only subtracting a way to bring in a whole new WR room. I'm not interested in overpaying FAs at WR. Draft is the only way.

 

[Vee-Rex]

Kwesi's first major move in his career as Vikings GM is to trade Kirk for Baker and a measly 1st?

 

[The Oi]

The Vikings lost the Ed Thorp Trophy when it was still the NFL Championship and they've been raw dogged on national TV every post season appearance since.

What about the Saints win?

 

[BimboColesHair]

What about the Saints win?

Followed by a raw dogging by Nick fucking Foles.

 

[Ohio]

Why would Minnesota do this? Everyone saw how bad Baker was.

I mean, someone is going to give Baker a chance in 2022 to see what he can do when healthy. If it's not the Browns, or the Vikings, it will be someone else. For the Vikings (or anyone else, really), he either proves he's good enough to move forward with or proves he's not good enough to move forward with. And they're getting at least an additional 1st round pick in the process. It's a one year deal...either a bridge to a rebuild or the start of a retool.

Kwesi's first major move in his career as Vikings GM is to trade Kirk for Baker and a measly 1st?

I didn't even think of this. Ugh. His familiarity with the Browns can be a plus, but in this case...it probably isn't.

 

[Real Deal]

Kwesi's first major move in his career as Vikings GM is to trade Kirk for Baker and a measly 1st?

For the delusional folks in the back