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Second half 22 GM Thread!

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CDAV45 said:
Don't mind dealing Curry or Tena. Very good prospects, but we have guys that are as good or better. I'm not dealing Brennan, but I bet he's being asked about and probably goes.

I don't see the benefit of this deal Coach. The combination of Curry, Tena and Brennan should be able to net you a lot more than that. I understand your desire for another BP arm, but I don't think Burke is the answer you're looking for.
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Gotta think Tena's market value is pretty low now. He's commonly floated as a trade chip but who's buying?
 
sportscoach said:
That's not a HR in a bunch of MLB parks...
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Did it not bounce off the concrete facing? He did the same thing while with Akron. You gonna say that was a HR due to park size too? It's OK to recognize and accept what Brennan has become and is becoming Coach. They made some adjustments to his swing/load and he's using his lower half more without sacrificing his contact ability. The surface is just being scratched with this kid.
 
So Brennan is this years Miller? Post after post that he is The One?
 
Obscured By Clouds said:
So Brennan is this years Miller? Post after post that he is The One?
CATS44 said:
There is a new THE ONE every few weeks.
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Can either one of you dipshits quote where that was said or are you just being dicks? If you don't like the conversation talk to somebody else about something else or fuck off. It's a conversation about the OF and how the pieces may or may not fall.
 
KluberSociety said:
Gotta think Tena's market value is pretty low now. He's commonly floated as a trade chip but who's buying?
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Wondering if you could explain this one a bit? I feel like the only logic would be because teams could say we can't play them all?

Tena is the 8th youngest player in the Eastern League and of the ones that have been in the Eastern League from the jump he would be the 5th. The only thing that is really glaring right now is the walk to strikeout ratio which Mauricio and Martinez are pretty similar. All 5 are of the SS variety type like him. Prospects lists snub a lot of Cleveland guys Bimbo has talked about that in the organization doesn't usually like to leak own reports to publications. I'm not going to devote too much more time to this because I should be working so just quickly got by MLB pipeline (I know arguably one of the worst) but all of the other 4 are on MLB's top 100. Volpe 8, Martinez 36, Mauricio 52, Tovar 57

Ezequiel Tovar 8/1/01 Colorado .318 / .386 / .546 / .932 295 PA

Ronny Mauricio 4/4/01 NYMets .248 / .282. / .475 / .757 323 PA

Orelvis Martinez 11/19/01 Toronto .201 / .271 / .446 / .717 307 PA

Anthony Volpe 4/28/01 NYYankees .253 / .351 / .461 / .812 348 PA

Jose Tena 3/20/01 .272 / .298 / .423 / .721 298 PA

Below are the other players in the Eastern younger

C Gregory Leal 2/14/03 doesn’t really count, development list, not even playing 14 PA in FCL NYMets
OF Jhonkensy Noel 7/15/01
Pitcher Kyle Harrison 8/12/01 San Fran
OF Everson Perira 4/10/01 NYYankees


I'd like to end that Tena might not be your favorite SS prospect in this system but he still is a hell of a prospect and that really goes to show you the depth at MIF. If he can get his walks up he is a lock as a major leaguer or hell maybe he's the next OGonz MIF.
 
FFRva said:
Wondering if you could explain this one a bit? I feel like the only logic would be because teams could say we can't play them all?

Tena is the 8th youngest player in the Eastern League and of the ones that have been in the Eastern League from the jump he would be the 5th. The only thing that is really glaring right now is the walk to strikeout ratio which Mauricio and Martinez are pretty similar. All 5 are of the SS variety type like him. Prospects lists snub a lot of Cleveland guys Bimbo has talked about that in the organization doesn't usually like to leak own reports to publications. I'm not going to devote too much more time to this because I should be working so just quickly got by MLB pipeline (I know arguably one of the worst) but all of the other 4 are on MLB's top 100. Volpe 8, Martinez 36, Mauricio 52, Tovar 57

Ezequiel Tovar 8/1/01 Colorado .318 / .386 / .546 / .932 295 PA

Ronny Mauricio 4/4/01 NYMets .248 / .282. / .475 / .757 323 PA

Orelvis Martinez 11/19/01 Toronto .201 / .271 / .446 / .717 307 PA

Anthony Volpe 4/28/01 NYYankees .253 / .351 / .461 / .812 348 PA

Jose Tena 3/20/01 .272 / .298 / .423 / .721 298 PA

Below are the other players in the Eastern younger

C Gregory Leal 2/14/03 doesn’t really count, development list, not even playing 14 PA in FCL NYMets
OF Jhonkensy Noel 7/15/01
Pitcher Kyle Harrison 8/12/01 San Fran
OF Everson Perira 4/10/01 NYYankees


I'd like to end that Tena might not be your favorite SS prospect in this system but he still is a hell of a prospect and that really goes to show you the depth at MIF. If he can get his walks up he is a lock as a major leaguer or hell maybe he's the next OGonz MIF.
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His numbers are fine, he just isn't as good as Arias, Rocchio in my mind and has less options now than Martinez. And we have guys like Tolentino a year behind that... I think we get away with parting with one or two of the Arias, Rocchio, Freeman, Tena, Martinez list...
 
sportscoach said:
His numbers are fine, he just isn't as good as Arias, Rocchio in my mind and has less options now than Martinez. And we have guys like Tolentino a year behind that... I think we get away with parting with one or two of the Arias, Rocchio, Freeman, Tena, Martinez list...
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When did I ever say that? I was trying to address "market value is pretty low now"

Look I get his pecking order organizationally and clearly state that but as a league wide market value the only other time it could possibly have been higher was after the AFL but that was with computer umps and without the AA jump everyone talks about which for his age he is handling it appropriately.

Just seems an air of poo pooing his value as being diminished on this board and I don't understand it? Strictly because the depth Cleveland has internally there is some thought other teams are going to demand we give him away for less value because we simply can't fit him into our future. GMs have friends and relationships with other GMs, trades can be win win with respect coming from both sides. Tena isn't a throw away and I'm sure he will find a home and hopefully bring something the organization thinks highly of back, if he is the one (or one of the ones) on the move.
 
FFRva said:
When did I ever say that? I was trying to address "market value is pretty low now"

Look I get his pecking order organizationally and clearly state that but as a league wide market value the only other time it could possibly have been higher was after the AFL but that was with computer umps and without the AA jump everyone talks about which for his age he is handling it appropriately.

Just seems an air of poo pooing his value as being diminished on this board and I don't understand it? Strictly because the depth Cleveland has internally there is some thought other teams are going to demand we give him away for less value because we simply can't fit him into our future. GMs have friends and relationships with other GMs, trades can be win win with respect coming from both sides. Tena isn't a throw away and I'm sure he will find a home and hopefully bring something the organization thinks highly of back, if he is the one (or one of the ones) on the move.
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His market value actually isn't that low, it's stayed the same since the start of the season... Yes we have SS depth, but at the same time the Guardians FO is known not to drop prices of players and Tena's value is the same now as when he got an option used...
 

I actually kind of like this trade on paper...

Yankees get Rosario

Guardians get Kiner-Falefa and RHP Wesneski

I actually would change around the roster some... Send down Clement, and call up Arias/Freeman and put Gimenez next to them...

I actually like Wesneski's profile and he isnt on the 40 man roster...
 
sportscoach said:

I actually kind of like this trade on paper...

Yankees get Rosario

Guardians get Kiner-Falefa and RHP Wesneski

I actually would change around the roster some... Send down Clement, and call up Arias/Freeman and put Gimenez next to them...

I actually like Wesneski's profile and he isnt on the 40 man roster...
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Like the idea (if we fall down to more of seller status) but hate the trade. Kiner-Falefa is a nice utility-ish guy who also can play catcher in a pinch, however regardless of if Wesneski is on the 40 man this year he'll be exposed to the R5 next year which only makes our situation worse there.
 
KluberSociety said:
Like the idea (if we fall down to more of seller status) but hate the trade. Kiner-Falefa is a nice utility-ish guy who also can play catcher in a pinch, however regardless of if Wesneski is on the 40 man this year he'll be exposed to the R5 next year which only makes our situation worse there.
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Who says we won't make another trade?
 
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