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Owner has nothing to do with the 90's success.
To win games these days, we'll need some money.
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Owner has nothing to do with the 90's success.
To win games these days, we'll need some money.
You require more than 81 million? Because newsflash, anyone who buys the Indians will not put anything more than 90 Million into the team.
The Indians have been given plenty of money, they have spent it very poorly in the unholy trinity of contracts of Westbrook/Hafner/Wood.
This is absolutely moronic.
Westbrook has been a solid contributor for several years. Hafner had an injury, which who can predict and got hit in the damn face by a ball and still can rake. All everybody did was complain about blowoski, year after year we go after the best closer, this year we got the best of the previous years, and he barely gets to pitch.
Perhaps, but ownership is not the core issue IMO..We'll never return to 90's form until we get a new owner, a new GM, a new manager, and all new coaches.
Yeah, PIP, the draft is the key issue here. The issue is not ownership, nor is it excessive trading of big league talent, nor is it the manager. I'm a Shapiro fan, but he and Antionetti have not done anything in the draft as far as bringing players to the major league level. They have showed more in the last 1 or 2 years, but that talent is still in the minors and has not contributed to the big league team.
Whoa whoa whoa, Shapiro and Wedge are the DIRECT issue here. They are responsible for drafting and developing talent into Major League players, they have never done so. Wedge has, as far as I can count, ran Phillips, Guthrie, and now Garko off this team because he could never figure out how to use them. Wedge isn't awful, but for a team that needs a great manager, Wedge isn't the guy.
As far as Shapiro goes, he needs to be promoted so he can be taken out of the GM role. For as great as his trades are, his drafting is just absolute shit. They need to fire their draft scouts immediately, because their drafting hasn't been good since Hart left.
Whoa whoa whoa, Shapiro and Wedge are the DIRECT issue here. They are responsible for drafting and developing talent into Major League players, they have never done so. Wedge has, as far as I can count, ran Phillips, Guthrie, and now Garko off this team because he could never figure out how to use them. Wedge isn't awful, but for a team that needs a great manager, Wedge isn't the guy.
As far as Shapiro goes, he needs to be promoted so he can be taken out of the GM role. For as great as his trades are, his drafting is just absolute shit. They need to fire their draft scouts immediately, because their drafting hasn't been good since Hart left.
I didn't dismiss any blame ayway from Shapiro. I think he shares a lot of blame for mis-managing the draft in the years he's been here, but he also deserves a lot of credit for some of his other moves.
Also, I don't know the inner-workings of the Indians front office, but I highly, highly doubt Wedge has any say in the draft process. That is the responsbility of Shapiro, Antoinetti, scouts, and others in the F.O.
Re: Phillips and Guthrie. Don't group Garko in this group for 2 reasons. 1) Garko was not a complete bust in Cleveland. 2) For Phillips and Guthrie, we're using hindsight to support the idea that Wedge screwed up. Garko has no excelled with the Giants, so we don't know if he will be anything more than he was in Cleveland.
I'm not quite understanding your last point about Shapiro being promoted. What is the position above GM? Unless I'm not sensing sarcasm or whatever.
I didn't dismiss any blame ayway from Shapiro. I think he shares a lot of blame for mis-managing the draft in the years he's been here, but he also deserves a lot of credit for some of his other moves.
Also, I don't know the inner-workings of the Indians front office, but I highly, highly doubt Wedge has any say in the draft process. That is the responsbility of Shapiro, Antoinetti, scouts, and others in the F.O.
Re: Phillips and Guthrie. Don't group Garko in this group for 2 reasons. 1) Garko was not a complete bust in Cleveland. 2) For Phillips and Guthrie, we're using hindsight to support the idea that Wedge screwed up. Garko has no excelled with the Giants, so we don't know if he will be anything more than he was in Cleveland.
I'm not quite understanding your last point about Shapiro being promoted. What is the position above GM? Unless I'm not sensing sarcasm or whatever.
Shapiro should be President and Antonetti GM, as I don't think Shapiro is cut out for entirely to be a great General Manager of a team that requires solid drafting.
As for Phillips and Guthrie, Wedge took Ramon Vasquez over Brandon Phillips stating that he thought a veteran would fit the role he need better. Wedge has stated that he told Shapiro to keep Vasquez over Phillips. Guthrie...I attribute that to coaching and lack of chances to make in the MLB.