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Brendan Haywood's Trade Exception
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
See later posts... EDIT
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
Actually I don't even know. I might delete or edit that post because it seems like the person who wrote that article had no clue what he was talking about. This is so damn confusing lol because of the amnesty.
Actually I don't even know. I might delete or edit that post because it seems like the person who wrote that article had no clue what he was talking about. This is so damn confusing lol because of the amnesty.
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
This could help..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywobr01.html
Contract Free Agent or Unsigned Draft Pick cap hold ▪ Player, Team, or Early Termination option
Team 2013-14 2014-15 2015-16
Charlotte Bobcats $2,050,000 $2,213,688 $10,522,500
Charlotte also assumes payment of his 2015-16 contract amount unless he is waived before August 1, 2015.
Claimed off of amnesty waivers for an assumed $6,150,000 for 3 years
So basically I think we picked up a huge $10.5 M non-guaranteed contract for 2015-16 that can be used as trade bait.
This could help..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywobr01.html
Contract Free Agent or Unsigned Draft Pick cap hold ▪ Player, Team, or Early Termination option
Team 2013-14 2014-15 2015-16
Charlotte Bobcats $2,050,000 $2,213,688 $10,522,500
Charlotte also assumes payment of his 2015-16 contract amount unless he is waived before August 1, 2015.
Claimed off of amnesty waivers for an assumed $6,150,000 for 3 years
So basically I think we picked up a huge $10.5 M non-guaranteed contract for 2015-16 that can be used as trade bait.
Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
This no longer applies. Dallas amnestied Haywood and he was awarded to Charlotte. The only guaranteed money is for 2014. While it is true that you cannot trade for an equal salary until after the season, this summer Heywood's contract can be a very enticing piece for a team that is looking for a expiring contract which they can then use to trade for player making the same amount of money as the unguaranteed amount. That other can than void the contract at no cost.
This no longer applies. Dallas amnestied Haywood and he was awarded to Charlotte. The only guaranteed money is for 2014. While it is true that you cannot trade for an equal salary until after the season, this summer Heywood's contract can be a very enticing piece for a team that is looking for a expiring contract which they can then use to trade for player making the same amount of money as the unguaranteed amount. That other can than void the contract at no cost.
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
I'm VERY intrigued to find out what moves B and C are...this trade is like a nice appetizer while you're waiting for the main course.
I'm VERY intrigued to find out what moves B and C are...this trade is like a nice appetizer while you're waiting for the main course.
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
Not saying you are implying this, but I don't see how this helps us at all THIS offseason. Next offseason, when it turns into 10 mil, it could be HUGE.... But I don't see how the Cavs would already have "moves B/C/D" lined up for NEXT offseason at this point.
Not saying you are implying this, but I don't see how this helps us at all THIS offseason. Next offseason, when it turns into 10 mil, it could be HUGE.... But I don't see how the Cavs would already have "moves B/C/D" lined up for NEXT offseason at this point.
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
I think he just meant the first of many. Just look at all the players and cap space we have. There will be moves...
I think he just meant the first of many. Just look at all the players and cap space we have. There will be moves...
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
I see. Makes more sense than what I thought he might have meant in that this trade was setting up other trades to come.
I see. Makes more sense than what I thought he might have meant in that this trade was setting up other trades to come.
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
The 10mm doesn't come into play until July 1 2015. Hard to see now how Haywood's contract is better tho summer than gee's, but I'm guessing griffin knows more than we do.
The 10mm doesn't come into play until July 1 2015. Hard to see now how Haywood's contract is better tho summer than gee's, but I'm guessing griffin knows more than we do.
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Re: Brendan Haywood Traded to Cleveland
We are not over the cap this season, and I am not sure how we could be over the cap this season. The Haywood contract provides us an 8 million dollar booster rocket to go over the cap in a trade for next year. Lots of takers for that trade. Consider any team over the cap, especially a repeat offender, could send us a nigh 10 million dollar player, which could save them 16 million dollars in the first year (if include all of the tax implications). This year it limits our cap space by 2 million dollars. If we renounce AV, and move Jack and Hopson in a salary dump, we could sign two 20 million dollar contracts this year. Then next year, we could trade Haywood in combination with say Zeller and get back Horford.
I am not saying we can actually pull this off because I am still skeptical that Lebron for example would sign in cleveland, much less any of the other superfreinds, but I think the FO deserves a slow clap for putting Cleveland in an entirely flexible position.
Something else that really sticks out is that in 2015 we have 12 million dollars in team options, and 13 million in expiring ( I am including Kyrie). The biggest contract we have to pay is Jack, and I am confident we will move him this year. That means any player not producing this season gets chopped or traded. Good motivation, and lots of flexiblity roster wise.
We are not over the cap this season, and I am not sure how we could be over the cap this season. The Haywood contract provides us an 8 million dollar booster rocket to go over the cap in a trade for next year. Lots of takers for that trade. Consider any team over the cap, especially a repeat offender, could send us a nigh 10 million dollar player, which could save them 16 million dollars in the first year (if include all of the tax implications). This year it limits our cap space by 2 million dollars. If we renounce AV, and move Jack and Hopson in a salary dump, we could sign two 20 million dollar contracts this year. Then next year, we could trade Haywood in combination with say Zeller and get back Horford.
I am not saying we can actually pull this off because I am still skeptical that Lebron for example would sign in cleveland, much less any of the other superfreinds, but I think the FO deserves a slow clap for putting Cleveland in an entirely flexible position.
Something else that really sticks out is that in 2015 we have 12 million dollars in team options, and 13 million in expiring ( I am including Kyrie). The biggest contract we have to pay is Jack, and I am confident we will move him this year. That means any player not producing this season gets chopped or traded. Good motivation, and lots of flexiblity roster wise.