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Chris Grant - Cavaliers GM

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I look for Grant to make a big move this off-season, acquiring a vet, near all-star for AV or our (lakers) pick. If things go poorly next year, Grant's job will be in jeopardy. I think back to when Boston was thinking of letting Danny Ainge go, and he made the Garnett and Ray Allen trades. Time for Grant to step up and make the big moves. I predict this will be the most interesting off-season in a decade


Where to start. Nobody is going to trade a borderline all-star for a player that has missed 3 seasons in a row to injuries. Add in the 20th pick in the draft and that suddenly sweetens the crock of shit to make it palatable?

The only way we're fleecing players from another team is because they are financially strapped and are liquidating their assets, like Memphis. I want to maximize our assets, not just throw them in for the hell of it.

If there's a way we can get the absolute best player in the draft, we need to do it. I understand the last drafts have been weak, but you still need to get the cream of the crop and pick off the top, where the cream is. I think Nerlens Noel's basketball sense, particularly on defense will make him have an almost veteran effect on the team. He knows how to play. Now I don't expect him to be directing the defense like KG or Rasheed Wallace, but he will make big time impact plays because of his innate basketball senses, specifically on defense.

All of the other players in this draft are consolation prizes. I'm sure there will be a few very solid, Jeff Green level players, but we need someone on the talent level of a Serge Ibaka or Larry Sanders. I'm not expecting us to find a Kevin Garnett level perennial all star player. I'm expecting us to find an Ibaka, borderline All-Star, all defensive team, main Cog in a championship contender.


I'm sure Porter, Len, Bennett, Zeller, Oladipo, McLemore, I'm sure they will all be solid players, but we need to find the best of the bunch, and I think Noel is a pretty solid bet to be very successful. His foot speed is quicker than Tristan, he's got his weaknesses no doubt, but his quickness is on another level, opposing bigs will have a hard time dealing with his feet, and you don't need to be cocked diesel to block shots, you need anticipation, length and the ability to rise very quickly.

I'd use the Lakers pick(s), all of our seconds, anyone on our team (outside of Kyrie, Dion, Tristan) and I mean ANYONE to move up and grab Noel, and somehow move up to acquire Victor Oladipo. Oladipo has Tristan's "grinder, worker, relentless" mentality. He'd be a shoe in here, he's exactly the type of guy we need to have in our practices. His intensity would force everybody else's to rise on the court.

If AV comes back healthy, Kyrie makes the leap, Dion makes the leap, Tristan makes another leap, Zeller improves...... Now add in a Tony Allen defender (Russell Westbrook level athlete) and a Larry Sanders anchor .......we become very legit. I'm talking 4-6 seed in the East next year..... And that's not even using the cap space to fill out the remainder with proper pieces. We need to somehow, any way make this happen. IF the franchise wants any sniff of LeBron James coming back here we're going to need DISCIPLINED, HARD WORKING, ELITE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES, TALENTED ballers but most importantly we need to understand the importance of DEFENSE. Offense comes, by virtue of elite talent alone.

Elite (Russell Westbrook) athletes, who specialize in defense, and are freak athletes that can run for days..... Add in a Varejao like soul on defense and you have a BEAR of a player to deal with. Kyrie is so talented offensively, we need a relentless freak athlete on the defensive end to compliment the team. This is my beef with Porter, he's a jack of all trades, master of none. We need someone that is either elite on offense or defense, Porter is just solid, can't miss safe pick.....

We need to start spending now, if we could somehow get both Noel and Oladipo, the premiere defenders in the draft, we change the culture. We make a statement by firing Scott's lazy ass, and set the tone for everybody else on this team. That is how we ascend upward, through expectation and aggression on the court, not just adding more talent for the fuck of it. We need to add a very specific worker type of personality to this team, someone relentless on defense that is also the best of the best athletically, and more than capable offensively.


You add players that deeply give a fuck and try their hearts out every time they take the court.
 
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You can't get BOTH Noel and Oladipo. We do have the assets to move up to number one if we are picking third or fourth and the team at one is willing. We do not have the assets to get the fifth or sixth pick in addition to that (I mean I guess we do, but not without giving up the untouchables).
 
You can't get BOTH Noel and Oladipo. We do have the assets to move up to number one if we are picking third or fourth and the team at one is willing. We do not have the assets to get the fifth or sixth pick in addition to that (I mean I guess we do, but not without giving up the untouchables).

We should just trade away this '13 pick to Sacramento, have them remove the protection on our other pick.

They are going to be bad, their team dynamics will never have them reaching success. You bet on teams that will perpetually be bad.

Still think Noel could potentially be a top 3 pick next year too. That should tell you something.
 
We should just trade away this '13 pick to Sacramento, have them remove the protection on our other pick.

They are going to be bad, their team dynamics will never have them reaching success. You bet on teams that will perpetually be bad.

Still think Noel could potentially be a top 3 pick next year too. That should tell you something.

They won't do that, though. Especially not with the loaded 2014 draft a year away. They're dumb, but not that dumb.
 
If Chris Grant brings Mike Brown back, you can rest assured that they will be active in the off-season to bolster this roster beyond just draft picks.

No one involved can afford a slow start next year as the 2nd guessing will get loud, and it will come quick if this team finds itself in an early hole.

When you put yourself out there with a controversial move like this, you have to do everything humanly possible to avoid letting the fallout metastasize.
 
If Chris Grant brings Mike Brown back, you can rest assured that they will be active in the off-season to bolster this roster beyond just draft picks.

No one involved can afford a slow start next year as the 2nd guessing will get loud, and it will come quick if this team finds itself in an early hole.

When you put yourself out there with a controversial move like this, you have to do everything humanly possible to avoid letting the fallout metastasize.

I think the Cavs were planning to have a strong start and maybe sign some helpful veterans regardless of whether they pick Mike Brown, Brian Shaw, or Max to coach the team.
 
Where to start. Nobody is going to trade a borderline all-star for a player that has missed 3 seasons in a row to injuries. Add in the 20th pick in the draft and that suddenly sweetens the crock of shit to make it palatable?

I disagree. If the borderline all star we're talking about is a RFA or soon to be RFA that their team is not going to/possibly might not resign it's highly probable we can package AV, another player, and picks for that player.

My estimate is that the players that fit that description are Love, Aldridge, and Horford (if Atlanta keeps Smith and goes after Howard).
 
Aldridge would be amazing, he would be the perfect compliment to TT
 
This offseason, no chance. But depending on who they draft and if they are playing poorly by the trade deadline, it could change. Aldridge has been a good trooper but he may start to come disillusioned if things go bad.
Aldridge would be amazing, he would be the perfect compliment to TT
 
Also, in light of the n"other" news breaking today, this is the point in history where quite a few of the Grant supporters jump ship.
This offseason, no chance. But depending on who they draft and if they are playing poorly by the trade deadline, it could change. Aldridge has been a good trooper but he may start to come disillusioned if things go bad.
 
This offseason, no chance. But depending on who they draft and if they are playing poorly by the trade deadline, it could change. Aldridge has been a good trooper but he may start to come disillusioned if things go bad.

Oh ya, I have no doubt he is not available currently, just a wet dream scenario.
 
I wanted to resurrect the CG thread a bit. I honestly think we have the best GM in the league. This man has stayed with a plan despite the dreadful seasons we have had recently. He is a forward thinking GM that has stock piled draft picks and has maintained cap flexibility. He has pretty much hit on his draft selections despite everyone's initial reactions to the picks.

I would not want his job (especially this year) but I have confidence in whoever he selects or if he ends up trading the #1 pick, he is doing the right thing. We understand that there was a lot of luck involved but so is any team that is successful. I also believe that when we start to win and get to the playoffs, he will do the right moves to keep us there.

Lastly, CG has got to be the most stressed out guy the last 3 years. Think about everything that has gone down for this man. Starting with LBJ to this years draft and the expectations the Cavs have and the "weak" drafts he has had to deal with. CG reveals nothing and gives answers to the media that never actually answer the question and sometimes, gives the same answer to unrelated questions. We have no clue what he is going to do but seems to do the right things.

Keep up the good work CG and we are hoping you come away with another steal this year despite what ESPN will say.
 
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