Trade Deadline Thread

[Chris]

Trade everybody.

 

[Chris]

Problem with the Indians is that they're just stuck with what they have right now. The left side of the infield are two young building blocks, though I'm not quite sold on Urshela quite yet, so you're probably not upgrading over either of them at this time. Kipnis is an all star. Santana's contract makes him too valuable to the Indians to move, same with Gomes at C. The RF-platoon has been productive enough that it doesn't make sense to sell them off for peanuts. Brantley is still Brantley but injured. That leaves Bourn and CF but I don't think they'll bench a guy making that much money.....

There's a problem when a guy's contract makes him "too valuable" to move.

 

[elcheato]

I would like to see the Indians trade for LJ Hoes. That's a jersey I would buy

Hoes could be had for cheap

 

[Real Deal]

This Indians team are what you see. Win 4, lose 5 is basically the motto. 1 big step forward, 2 big steps back. Inconsistency, and the players are really at fault here. I can troll Dolan this or Dolan that, but Moss, Swish, Bourn, Santana, Gomes are pretty much horrible or inconsistently bad. Just a bad group of players right now playing together, and its showing.

Swish was fun in '13, thanks for the playoff game.

At least next off season the lack of power and consistency will stand out, and if they don't address it then fuck em. They have the pitching staff to WIN. If they don't better this hitting attack....

 

[EdMonix11]

There's a problem when a guy's contract makes him "too valuable" to move.

Well, I mean, for the production we're getting from Santana, we should be paying a whole lot more. Offensively, he's squarely in the middle of the pack for 1B and the drop off between him and Moss (his probable replacement), analytically, is pretty huge. It would just be pretty hard to upgrade at 1B based on the market and the poor outlook of 1B around the MLB. The goal, I assume, is to contend next year too and Santana is probably in that picture. Gomes also has a sweetheart deal for the Tribe but he's too valuable for the pitching staff to move plus that injury zapped his rhythm just like Kipnis last year....

 

[Stark]

- I think Gomes' injury at the start of the year derailed him from getting anything going. He's still working quality at-bats most of the time and still has a cannon behind the dish. I'm giving him a pass on this season, and I hope he can bounce back the way Kipnis bounced back from injury this season.
- Swisher and Bourn are awful. They can't leave town soon enough.
- Moss is what he is. Strikeout, home run, occasional walk. He's playing about to expectation, at least in my book.
- I don't honestly understand Santana anymore. Great eye at the dish, hits the ball damn hard from the left side of the plate. Just not having a good year.
- The Raburn/Murphy platoon has been fantastic, but they are still our cleanup hitters most nights and only have a combined nine home runs between them.
- Kipnis needs no words.
- Brantley's back is messing with him at times I think, but I still thought he was due for some regression coming into this season.
- Urshela and Lindor are rookies. Love their defense and hustle; bats are a work in progress of course.
- Perez is a capable back up catcher that could start for a few clubs.
- Aviles is just kind of there, but I'm sure his mind isn't even fully on baseball right now anyways because of his daughter. Can't blame him.
- Everybody else that has been up here this year (Chiz, Ramirez) have dissapointed.
- Bring me Jesus Aguilar and Jerry Sands. Our best right handed power hitter right now is Ryan Raburn.

 

[Snarly]

This is GM and scouting's fault. You can't draft such mediocre to crappy players for that long and not suffer the consequences, especially when you're small market.

I feel like Antonetti and Shapario this is getting away with to much with out any heat. Yes Dolan is limiting him or them but not stopping them from making dumb moves. I mean come one year after year we knew we needed a RH bat and no right handed bat. Yet they add another left handed high strike out volume bat in Moss.

I am not bashing them as they are trying but the results have been awful from an offensive stand point. Don't even get me started on the scouting. I will give them credit for the starting pitching but come on. We proven we can't run with the teams like the Royals and can't Power with the big bats. The scouting has been the worst.

This deadline and the off season are what will make my mind up about Shap and his FO. The did do some great things but just as much bad. A change is needed somewhere. Just do a mini blow up and reset and run for next year. Now that our pitching is stable please get that Right hand bat we need. That can not afford to mess up fixing the offense anymore. I am sad I even have to come to this. Because I do like what they did in other areas but man I have to face the facts.

 

[Snarly]

- I think Gomes' injury at the start of the year derailed him from getting anything going. He's still working quality at-bats most of the time and still has a cannon behind the dish. I'm giving him a pass on this season, and I hope he can bounce back the way Kipnis bounced back from injury this season.
- Swisher and Bourn are awful. They can't leave town soon enough.
- Moss is what he is. Strikeout, home run, occasional walk. He's playing about to expectation, at least in my book.
- I don't honestly understand Santana anymore. Great eye at the dish, hits the ball damn hard from the left side of the plate. Just not having a good year.
- The Raburn/Murphy platoon has been fantastic, but they are still our cleanup hitters most nights and only have a combined nine home runs between them.
- Kipnis needs no words.
- Brantley's back is messing with him at times I think, but I still thought he was due for some regression coming into this season.
- Urshela and Lindor are rookies. Love their defense and hustle; bats are a work in progress of course.
- Perez is a capable back up catcher that could start for a few clubs.
- Aviles is just kind of there, but I'm sure his mind isn't even fully on baseball right now anyways because of his daughter. Can't blame him.
- Everybody else that has been up here this year (Chiz, Ramirez) have dissapointed.
- Bring me Jesus Aguilar and Jerry Sands. Our best right handed power hitter right now is Ryan Raburn.

I agree, dump the age and let the young guys get some run this year and hope they can compete next year. As much as I like Murphy and Rayburn or Aviles they having good years but the value is high for a deal to get back something moving forward. Aguilar could be just what we need, I really like the kid.

 

[Steve_424]

Right handed, middle of the order bats aren't that easy to come by.

 

[Real Deal]

When Santana, Gomes, and Moss decides to drive in runs then we'll be fine. It's bad enough Swish is done which was supposed to be the cleanup guy when he signed.

It's also worth noting this team lacks a leadoff hitter because Kipnis is not your leadoff hitter, to important of a player to just get stranded, we all know he's most best in the middle. Even though the leadoff spot really got him going but he's there by default and because Bourn is a piece of shit.

I comes from 4-5-6 to help the pitchers. If that trio does their job then Lindor and Gio can get away with their struggles at the plate because they are providing the defense to win games.

 

[The Oi]

In 4-5 years this team should be fairly watchable.

 

[Steve_424]

When Santana, Gomes, and Moss decides to drive in runs then we'll be fine. It's bad enough Swish is done which was supposed to be the cleanup guy when he signed.

It's also worth noting this team lacks a leadoff hitter because Kipnis is not your leadoff hitter, to important of a player to just get stranded, we all know he's most best in the middle. Even though the leadoff spot really got him going but he's there by default and because Bourn is a piece of shit.

I comes from 4-5-6 to help the pitchers. If that trio does their job then Lindor and Gio can get away with their struggles at the plate because they are providing the defense to win games.

I'm not sure I agree Kip isn't our long-term leadoff hitter.

 

[Real Deal]

I'm not sure I agree Kip isn't our long-term leadoff hitter.

That's what I'm saying, he needs to be down a few slots, but since we have nobody to set the table, he stays until we find somebody.

 

[ajz20]

I feel like Antonetti and Shapario this is getting away with to much with out any heat. Yes Dolan is limiting him or them but not stopping them from making dumb moves. I mean come one year after year we knew we needed a RH bat and no right handed bat. Yet they add another left handed high strike out volume bat in Moss.

I am not bashing them as they are trying but the results have been awful from an offensive stand point. Don't even get me started on the scouting. I will give them credit for the starting pitching but come on. We proven we can't run with the teams like the Royals and can't Power with the big bats. The scouting has been the worst.

This deadline and the off season are what will make my mind up about Shap and his FO. The did do some great things but just as much bad. A change is needed somewhere. Just do a mini blow up and reset and run for next year. Now that our pitching is stable please get that Right hand bat we need. That can not afford to mess up fixing the offense anymore. I am sad I even have to come to this. Because I do like what they did in other areas but man I have to face the facts.

Any chance you could take some grammar courses. You are the king of run on sentences.

 

[AZ_]

That's what I'm saying, he needs to be down a few slots, but since we have nobody to set the table, he stays until we find somebody.

That's not what he's saying at all, actually.