BimboColesHair
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Of course you wondered this?In the short term, its always tough to lose a FO piece. In the long run its a good thing.
In football, they often talk about coaching trees....
Sabin's, Woody Hayes', Paul Brown's.
Seemingly every year they lost an assistant, who went on to success. And seemingly they hired another one who was just as good. And none of those guys stopped winning.
Nobody talks about Rod Chudzinskis coaching tree.
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Having former front office personnel in other orgs opens lines of communications that otherwise wouldn't exist.
I wonder if this hiring opens up trade possibilities with the Cubs.
I'm always open to additional possibilities...lol.Of course you wondered this?
Spectrum Mobile TV/Phone service has the same idea.. persistence.. I can guarantee one thing.. whenever those assholes call on the phone, for the fifth or sixth time that day..they get an earful and then some.. and NO ORDER/INTEREST in buying anything at anytime for any price from them. IF there is an opportunity to have a conversation with anyone looking for a recommendation.. here is it..I like everything simplified down to the most basic. I like Brantleys no movement, no stride swing. Keep it simple, stupid.
Many years ago I was the sales manager for a large NE Ohio HVAC concern. As such, I attended many sales seminars with my staff. All of them were pure hocum, except one. And the whole lesson in that one was done in one five minute...and very crude...story. I doubt that story is being used today, but it made the point.
It made no mention of sales techniques and all that garbage...just the most basic thing needed for successful sales.
(I'm getting to the reason for this post as it applies to this off season.)
A man walks into a bar and walks up to the prettiest gal, and tells her he wants to take her back to his room. She slaps him and security asks him to leave.
The man goes to the next bar and does the same thing. The bouncer throws him in the alley.
On to the next bar, where two bouncers leave marks all over his body.
This goes on all night, but sooner or later that man gets a pretty gal. His clothes are ripped and his body aches, but he finally succeeded.
Persistence.
This is exactly what our FO must do. Persistently pursue upgrades. Upgrades that at first glance seem impossible. Upgrades in any direction, from any organization. There is a seeming impossibility out there that can be had. There may be two. It may take until the beginning of spring training.
This FO was persistent in acquiring Franmil and a LH starter. It was persistent in acquiring seven players, including Quantrill. It was persistent in acquiring Straw.
This FO may be the tightest lipped of any in baseball. Except for the Bauer trade, in which the parameters and org were rumored eight months earlier, every trade it has made in the last decade has seemingly come out of left field.
We have been debating what the FO should do, but the FO is already doing it, and has been since at least the all star break. The parameters of perhaps six separate trades have already been established. Now, it comes down to which set of parameters best fits the often shifting desires of both teams. One of the things that has to be determined before any trade is the level of spending that Mr Dolan sets. That should come fairly soon.
This is what I have been thinking for some time. We all knew Kluber, Bauer, CC, Lindor, and Clevinger would be traded. But before those trades were announced I don't recall seeing the names of Clase, Reyes, Naylor, Hedges, Quantrill, A. Rosario, or Gimenez discussed on this board, or any of the prospects that came with them. The Maton/Diaz for Straw trade came out of left field.This FO may be the tightest lipped of any in baseball. Except for the Bauer trade, in which the parameters and org were rumored eight months earlier, every trade it has made in the last decade has seemingly come out of left field.
We have been debating what the FO should do, but the FO is already doing it, and has been since at least the all star break.
Acceptable?
A top pitching prospect in AA ball or higher, a solid hitting prospect, an MLB ready bat at a position of need with 4-5 years of cheap team control left, and a solid reliever with a couple years of arbitration left.
So something like Logan Allen, Josh Naylor, Franmil Reyes, and someone like Kirby Yates.
This is what I have been thinking for some time. We all knew Kluber, Bauer, CC, Lindor, and Clevinger would be traded. But before those trades were announced I don't recall seeing the names of Clase, Reyes, Naylor, Hedges, Quantrill, A. Rosario, or Gimenez discussed on this board, or any of the prospects that came with them. The Maton/Diaz for Straw trade came out of left field.
So I don't bother to get involved in discussions of who the Indians should target in trades. None of the players whose names have come up on this board ever made it to Cleveland, if I'm not mistaken, and none of the guys who we traded for were discussed as possibilities before the trade.
The Indians are very tight lipped and they know who their trade targets are. We simply don't and have not been any good at figuring it out in advance.
Interesting reply to that thread: