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Ozone said:
Right imo Alexander having exceptional length with a 7'2 ws and being a well proven defender on the wing,he should be a top 20 pick in this class. there is so many in online forums that are missing on this kid it's laughable. But most scouting departments know exactly who he is and it's why he will probably go 10-15 picks higher than the average mock. There are a few others even more slept on in this draft and maybe by some scouts still as well like the Kispert's, Hinton's or Tillie's as mid-late first value instead of late first early second as projected and the deep sleepers like Scrubb, Petty or Queen who are seen as UDFA are definitely worthy of 2 way roster spots picks in the 50's.
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7'2" wingspan? Wtf? Did you get that the same place you got Okongwu's 42" vert? :chuckle:
 
Nathan S said:
7'2" wingspan? Wtf? Did you get that the same place you got Okongwu's 42" vert? :chuckle:
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yeah maybe it's an internet exageration idk & since I can't find it now and without a combine or a private workout one can only guess. So you can at least take it with a grain of salt I dont make this shit up even if someone else did and you want to call me out for repeating it.
But it would not surprise me if he was that long he looks like he has a +6 h to ws ratio easily.
Here is a nice little write up on him for a team that think s they can get him early 2nd.
https://thepaintedlines.com/potential-sixers-draft-target-ty-shon-alexander/
 
Ozone said:
yeah maybe it's an internet exageration idk & since I can't find it now and without a combine or a private workout one can only guess. So you can at least take it with a grain of salt I dont make this shit up even if someone else did and you want to call me out for repeating it.
But it would not surprise me if he was that long he looks like he has a +6 h to ws ratio easily.
Here is a nice little write up on him for a team that think s they can get him early 2nd.
https://thepaintedlines.com/potential-sixers-draft-target-ty-shon-alexander/
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FWIW, the stuff I still have access to says he was measured once (unofficially) at 6'8.5". It doesn't say when. I suppose it is possible he has grown but that would be a lot of added wingspan.

Some of these guys have so little measurement info this year. Such a bizarre draft this season.
 
Ozone said:
yeah maybe it's an internet exageration idk & since I can't find it now and without a combine or a private workout one can only guess. So you can at least take it with a grain of salt I dont make this shit up even if someone else did and you want to call me out for repeating it.
But it would not surprise me if he was that long he looks like he has a +6 h to ws ratio easily.
Here is a nice little write up on him for a team that think s they can get him early 2nd.
https://thepaintedlines.com/potential-sixers-draft-target-ty-shon-alexander/
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Yeah, I do want to call you out for repeating it. That's how misinformation spreads, when people just mindlessly parrot anything that supports their viewpoint even if it makes no sense.
 
Nathan S said:
Yeah, I do want to call you out for repeating it. That's how misinformation spreads, when people just mindlessly parrot anything that supports their viewpoint even if it makes no sense.
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like you providing the documented wingspan information that counters my claim? gotcha
It works both ways buddy. but you have been here longer so I am sure you will get the
benefit of the doubt from your cronies. Yep there are the likes lol
The fact is he is a long athletic wing and has plenty of staying power in the NBA because of it.
Your claim he is similar to a UDFA bust is a ridiculous take but at least you backed it up with
data supporting your theory. smh
 
I'mWithDan said:
FWIW, the stuff I still have access to says he was measured once (unofficially) at 6'8.5". It doesn't say when. I suppose it is possible he has grown but that would be a lot of added wingspan.

Some of these guys have so little measurement info this year. Such a bizarre draft this season.
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he is long and until there is a NBA combine or a workout completed I will have to rest my case.
 
Warnings were not heeded, Ozone will not be posting until after the 2020 NBA draft is currently scheduled. We can have different opinions around here, we can't support his alternate reality in facts. Can't pretend real facts don't exist, can't push bullshit as fact. If he doesn't like it I'm sure other websites are out there. Hope he finds one or realizes this is a moderated forum.
 
Made an attempt at a big board. Not going to include a lot of commentary, but as always happy to discuss any of these guys in greater detail.


Tier 1a: Once again leaning towards Ball as the clear #1 guy. Really elite combination of physical tools and natural talent.

1. LaMelo Ball

Tier 1b: These guys all have superstar ceilings, IMO, while also being pretty safe bets to be at least solid starters.

2. Tyrese Haliburton
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Anthony Edwards

Tier 2a: More of a mix in this tier. All seem likely, IMO, to be valuable roleplayers, but some are more boom/bust than others.

6. Onyeka Okongwu
7. Aleksej Pokusevski
8. RJ Hampton
9. Joel Ayayi
10. Josh Green
11. Xavier Tillman
12. Devin Vassell
13. Tre Jones
14. Malachi Flynn
15. Isaac Okoro

Tier 2b: Generally less exciting ceilings than Tier 2a guys, but not a big gap. Still fairly safe bets to be positive contributors.

16. Paul Reed
17. Deni Avdija
18. Theo Maledon
19. Kira Lewis
20. Nico Mannion
21. Jared Butler
22. Jalen Smith
23. Devon Dotson
24. Reggie Perry
25. Leandro Bolmaro
26. Luka Garza

Tier 3: I think these guys have clear pathways to becoming positive impact players, but the bust possibility is more significant.

27. Jahmi'us Ramsey
28. Desmond Bane
29. Aaron Nesmith
30. Vernon Carey
31. Obi Toppin
32. Tyrell Terry
33. Tres Tinkle
34. Grant Riller
35. Cole Anthony
36. Payton Pritchard
37. Jon Teske
38. Immanuel Quickley
39. Patrick Williams
40. Daniel Oturu
41. Saddiq Bey
42. Zeke Nnaji
43. Ty-Shon Alexander
44. Tyler Bey
45. Isaiah Stewart
46. Filip Petrusev
47. Tyrese Maxey
 
Randolphkeys said:
Warnings were not heeded, Ozone will not be posting until after the 2020 NBA draft is currently scheduled. We can have different opinions around here, we can't support his alternate reality in facts. Can't pretend real facts don't exist, can't push bullshit as fact. If he doesn't like it I'm sure other websites are out there. Hope he finds one or realizes this is a moderated forum.
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Totalitarianistic regime! Down with your statue.... or is it down with the statutes? Something.... idk.... burp.
 
MikeOC33 said:
Totalitarianistic regime! Down with your statue.... or is it down with the statutes? Something.... idk.... burp.
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It is only through my own benevolence that such a nutcase made it past last summer.

Now on to the draft. I appreciate folk like Nathan S. who is looking at the whole draft class, but that seems like monumental task in 2020. The Cavaliers will draft in the top five. I'm going to focus on the players I believe the Cavs will decide between in October.

1. LaMelo Ball - This is one of three players I heard some buzz about in Cavs circles for the past calendar year. At first, I didn't want to believe it because LaVar Ball has managed to encapsule everything I hate about the AAU circuit. However, the positives are clear. The Cavs invested in two guards who can only defend one position. Neither is an exceptional playmaker for others. Ball has the potential to be a versatile defender while stepping into the Delly role as offensive centerpiece.

2. James Wiseman - Again, one of the players I heard consistent buzz around for the Cavaliers. The trade for Drummond, who had a very similar early career arc, would be able to transition Wiseman into his role as rim protector and rim runner from the center position next season. The negative is clearly the past year of development. Is he better than he was last July? Has he even remained as good as he used to be? The inaction isn't all his fault, but it leaves his draft status as a huge question mark.

3. Deni Avdija - The third player I've heard consistent buzz about is the only one who can also provide evidence of drastically improving over the course of the calendar year. I won't get into whether Israel made the right decision to remain open for business, but the one person who benefitted the most was Avdija. He has shown he can be more than a role player due to his improved shooting. His floor is now the highest in this class. Remember that the Cavs invited two Maccabi Tel Aviv players to the 2019 Summer League roster. To say the franchise has been digging deep on this player is an understatement.

4. Anthony Edwards - The Cavs like scoring, shooting, and production in their lottery picks. Edwards might be a little redundant with Sexton on the roster, but he is a safe bet to be a legitimate NBA starting two guard for a long time. We know the Cavs have no plan on selecting a point guard, but Edwards is a finisher who suffered from a lack of point guard next to him in college. A team with so many Anthony Bennett errors on their resume should be looking at BPA if their favorites are already gone.

5. Onyeka Okongwu - Rounding out the top five is a player who fits in perfectly with building a core of young guys. His play on the court is very similar to Tristan Thompson. While we know the young core loved sharing the court with TT, we also know TT asked multiple times for a trade out of town. IMO, the likelihood of TT remaining on the roster is lower than anybody will say right now. Big O would also fill Love's shoes as power forward of the future, with a game that seems ready to explore as soon as he develops his outside shot.
 
Nathan S said:
Made an attempt at a big board. Not going to include a lot of commentary, but as always happy to discuss any of these guys in greater detail.


Tier 1a: Once again leaning towards Ball as the clear #1 guy. Really elite combination of physical tools and natural talent.

1. LaMelo Ball

Tier 1b: These guys all have superstar ceilings, IMO, while also being pretty safe bets to be at least solid starters.

2. Tyrese Haliburton
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Anthony Edwards

Tier 2a: More of a mix in this tier. All seem likely, IMO, to be valuable roleplayers, but some are more boom/bust than others.

6. Onyeka Okongwu
7. Aleksej Pokusevski
8. RJ Hampton
9. Joel Ayayi
10. Josh Green
11. Xavier Tillman
12. Devin Vassell
13. Tre Jones
14. Malachi Flynn
15. Isaac Okoro

Tier 2b: Generally less exciting ceilings than Tier 2a guys, but not a big gap. Still fairly safe bets to be positive contributors.

16. Paul Reed
17. Deni Avdija
18. Theo Maledon
19. Kira Lewis
20. Nico Mannion
21. Jared Butler
22. Jalen Smith
23. Devon Dotson
24. Reggie Perry
25. Leandro Bolmaro
26. Luka Garza

Tier 3: I think these guys have clear pathways to becoming positive impact players, but the bust possibility is more significant.

27. Jahmi'us Ramsey
28. Desmond Bane
29. Aaron Nesmith
30. Vernon Carey
31. Obi Toppin
32. Tyrell Terry
33. Tres Tinkle
34. Grant Riller
35. Cole Anthony
36. Payton Pritchard
37. Jon Teske
38. Immanuel Quickley
39. Patrick Williams
40. Daniel Oturu
41. Saddiq Bey
42. Zeke Nnaji
43. Ty-Shon Alexander
44. Tyler Bey
45. Isaiah Stewart
46. Filip Petrusev
47. Tyrese Maxey
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I can see Haliburton being the Oladipo of this draft. Nobody wants to take the guy who is just solid, and he ends up as one of the best players.
 
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