I haven't paid as close attention to the collegiate season as I usually would but outside of the top-5, I'm not really seeing too many guys to get excited about especially when considering what the Cavs need moving forward...
It looks like they might be in the range to snag a bench shooter or backup ball-handler but I'm not sure there's a guy who really represents a really good fit/value for where the Cavs are likely to be drafting, and what they're likely to need...
Sounds like our kind of prospectGreg Brown just got his 2nd assist of the season. Incredibly, he went over 250 minutes without recording an assist.
Part of it is where they're getting their points from. Okongwu was mostly offensive rebound put backs and transition. That TT-style rim-running big usually projects as just a good role player in the NBA.Updated draft ratings...wings continue to lead the way
This comparison may surprise some people (per-100 stats)
Okongwu: 30.2 points (.62/.25/.72 shooting), 16.1 boards, 2.0 assists, 2.3 steals, 5.1 blocks, 3.7 turnovers, 5.0 fouls
Mobley: 28.9 points (.58/.30/.72 shooting), 15.5 boards, 3.3 assists, 1.5 steals, 5.0 blocks, 4.1 turnovers, 2.7 fouls
Mobley and Okongwu put up very similar scoring numbers, with Okongwu just ahead in steals, Mobley with fewer fouls and a bit better in the assist:TO area. It's interesting that, while Okongwu was seen as quite raw with a questionable offensive ceiling, Mobley is almost universally considered a top-3 prospect with a very high offensive ceiling.
Part of it is where they're getting their points from. Okongwu was mostly offensive rebound put backs and transition. That TT-style rim-running big usually projects as just a good role player in the NBA.
Mobley is out on the perimeter more and creating, which is more exciting for a 7-footer. Plus, the difference in assist rate is one of the bigger selling points for people to believe that you can run an offense through Mobley ala Bam or Sabonis that you can't really do with Okongwu.
EDIT: Also, interesting to see Barnes dominate your metrics. He seems like the perfect guy that passes the eye test and analytics, and would also fill a huge need on the Cavs roster and someone that seems like a perfect cultural fit. I saw ESPN dropped him down to 13 in their latest mock, so he could potentially be available if we end up in the late lotto.
more turnovers than assistsYour rater doesn't like Ziaire...at all...
Updated draft ratings...wings continue to lead the way
This comparison may surprise some people (per-100 stats)
Okongwu: 30.2 points (.62/.25/.72 shooting), 16.1 boards, 2.0 assists, 2.3 steals, 5.1 blocks, 3.7 turnovers, 5.0 fouls
Mobley: 28.9 points (.58/.30/.72 shooting), 15.5 boards, 3.3 assists, 1.5 steals, 5.0 blocks, 4.1 turnovers, 2.7 fouls
Mobley and Okongwu put up very similar scoring numbers, with Okongwu just ahead in steals, Mobley with fewer fouls and a bit better in the assist:TO area. It's interesting that, while Okongwu was seen as quite raw with a questionable offensive ceiling, Mobley is almost universally considered a top-3 prospect with a very high offensive ceiling.
I see you have it listed there as its own column, but is SOS an actual component of your Offensive and Defensive ratings? And do you have a sense for how much impact it has, if so?
Moses Moody 5th is what piqued my interest, since he's really struggled vs better competition yet still has great numbers on the year.
I'm just thinking out loud, but I wonder if you're able to quantify a player's performance relative to the opposing level of competition on a game-by-game basis, rather than his season averages as a whole compared to the full season SOS. I'd think that by using the full season averages vs full season SOS, it wouldn't be able to identify when a decline in the player's play is more steep than the change in competition level. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to models, but I'm sure doing the former is much more challenging.
So BartTorvik has him as shooting just 38.6% from 2PT in the 6 games considered "Top 50 quality". Despite this, he's still at 51.1% from 2PT on the year. I think using season long averages relative to a full season SOS may not provide the full context of when he is struggling. Sure he would be hurt by a weak SOS overall, but I think the effects would be stronger and more representative when looked at at a game by game basis.
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?year=2021&p=Moses Moody&t=Arkansas