Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[bs80]

Why do I get the feeling we are in for another long, ugly season.

Not a fan of Kool-Aid, I presume?

 

[Dr No]

This wouldn’t be such a shock to some people if they had believed the reports that he’s been on the trade block for quite some time.

We’re 60-159 over the last 3 years. JBB, Koby, Sexton, Garland, etc. have been a big part of that.

I need to see them contributing to some decent basketball before I’m committing to any of them. Sexton isn’t being singled out. His contract simply ends before the others.

Correct - he is not being singled out. Assuming we end up in the lottery again this year. This is 5 years in a row, which means we've had 4 years with cheap labor playing a lot of minutes. There is no way to pay 5 straight lottery picks the kind of money they think they deserve when their rookie contracts are up. So we are to the point now where we have to decide which of these guys we are going to build around, and therefore who gets paid, and which ones are only worth keeping if the price is right. It looks to me that they are prioritizing Garland and Mobley. That doesn't mean they wouldn't like to keep Okoro and Sexton long term (and maybe Okoro blows up and changes their thinking), but the reality is they can only keep them long term at a certain price point. Franchises have to make these decisions all the time. Sexton is just the first of our bunch to face it.

 

[kidduck]

The only way Sexton can elevate his value to either the Cavs, a trade partner or
potential RFA suitor is to show growth in those areas of his game all
have pointed out often.

Benching him for Okoro pigeon holes CS into his current style. If he
plays it all out like a good soldier, the team has a chance to
be better, assuming a big leap from Okoro.

But if CS and agent were truly seeking the max extension, being a bench
guy isn't going to help him as a RFA. I guess when/how many minutes
he is on the court would tip whether this turns into a good idea
or a distraction.

 

[daytripper]

Who knows what's really going on but from the outside it sure seems they should've traded him this offseason if they weren't planning to extend him. We don't know how bad the offers were but I don't see how his value is going to exponentially increase this season esp considering the roster here.

Last I checked the CAA website they had Collin up on their main page along with some of their other young stars (Randle, Mitchell, etc) so they obviously think very highly of him. Even if the Cavs FO secretly believes Collin is a 6th man I would be shocked if they dare bench him in a contract year. Sexton is also the lowest paid guy on the team at this point unless you want to count scrubs like Windler, Wade, or Stevens.

 

[Futuredome]

I see a fight breaking out between Sexton and Mobley both declaring this is "their" team. Garland fades to the corner scared of them. Okoro tries to break it up and fails.

 

[Heat Check]

Who knows what's really going on but from the outside it sure seems they should've traded him this offseason if they weren't planning to extend him. We don't know how bad the offers were but I don't see how his value is going to exponentially increase this season esp considering the roster here.

Last I checked the CAA website they had Collin up on their main page along with some of their other young stars (Randle, Mitchell, etc) so they obviously think very highly of him. Even if the Cavs FO secretly believes Collin is a 6th man I would be shocked if they dare bench him in a contract year. Sexton is also the lowest paid guy on the team at this point unless you want to count scrubs like Windler, Wade, or Stevens.

Sexton is going to be a restricted free agent. This is a fact.

Now... for him, the situation is clear-cut. He's gonna want touches, shots, and lots of playing time. You can do a lot of stuff within those parameters – good and bad – but that's the starting point. No player going into RFA benefits from losing his starting spot or a featured role. You can talk all you want about proving you can play team ball, being unselfish etc. and doing it all off the bench, but this is the NBA and appearances matter a great deal. If you lose your starting spot and have a bunch of your shots taken away, that's gonna cost you millions of dollars in the offseason.

For the Cavs, it's much trickier. There's a number of ways the team can benefit from Sexton's contract year, and they're not always compatible with one another. It all depends whether or not the FO actually wants to keep Collin here long-term (albeit on a much cheaper deal than what he was looking for). I'm not at all sure about that.

RFAs-to-be are not great trade targets. I'm pretty sure teams aren't knocking the door down to offer the Cavs valuable assets when they can just wait and get the guy after the season. Sure, if the player is a true building block, a difference maker, you might take more of a risk during the season and sacrifice something in a deal. Sexton, though, isn't that. He's a luxury at this point.

If we suppose he won't be traded – I believe he won't be – and the Cavs do consider him a long term piece, they stand to benefit if his perceived league value drops. There won't be many teams with money anyway next offseason, and Sexton may find his suitors dwindling fast if he has a meh season. On the other hand, if we're trying to win, having Collin play really well, in a big role, is something you want.

Lots of moving parts.

 

[Sebastian]

Racking them assists up!

 

[Cavatt]

Needs to go to the open space more. These guys will find him. He's still coming to the ball too much.

Needs to cut after giving Mobley the ball too.

 

[MirORich]

Racking them assists up!

Clearly ball movement was not an issue as the team had 38 assists

The two point guards, Rubio and Garland were, appropriately, asked to handle the majority of ball handling and playmaking

Nor did Sexton overdribble or hero ball it when he did have the ball, with the one exception of the final full possession of the first quarter.

Efficient scoring on 7-13 from the field and just one turnover while adjusting to a far different role than his first two seasons

I saw this as a positive offensive game from Sexton.

 

[cabs]

I thought he was actually passing the ball well despite the low assist total, he took a really bad shot that got swallowed up by Jackson and played terrible defense though. Trade.

 

[roozy]

Yeah this was an encouraging game from him BUT defensively he is just really bad, constant mental lapses.

 

[Goldin Brown]

The coaching staff let Collin close the game and check Morant and he got cooked. I thought Okoro was really the only one that had success against Morant, but they decided not to let him close. Hopefully Collin takes this game personally and starts to pick it up on the defensive end.

 

[RubioFanLifer]

doesn't look like a 100 million man at all.

 

[Rich]

I get that Sexton is gonna be graded harshly every game this season because he's the current scapegoat for why the team isn't good.

But if getting blocked once at the rim by JJJ is his lone bad play then he played the way everyone wants him to and kept the ball moving.

If he had Garland's closing 2 minutes then people would be losing their minds in this thread about how Sexton cost us the game.

He didn't guard Morant well but neither did Garland or Rubio. That's just kinda life in the NBA against great offensive players sometimes. They score no matter what.

 

[Man Called X]

Racking them assists up!

Lauri clanked a couple open 3s early off Sexton passes. Not his fault the Finn played like a pussy in the first half.