I don’t think we give Sexton a significant long term contract without seeing how he performs on the court. It would almost be malpractice to do that given we weren’t totally sure about his long term role before
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Any idea if a meniscectomy can make a player taller?
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Any idea if a meniscectomy can take the stick out of Ozones ass?
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That would take a backiotomy.
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Given Collin's youth, work ethic, and the track record of these surgeries being successful, I could see the Cavs offering him three years at $42 million or thereabouts. IOW, get him at a discount. It might make sense for both sides.
It could depend on whether they can sign Rubio to an extension. If Rubio leaves after this season and if it becomes apparent that Okoro is not a starting 2-guard, then the Cavs would be more motivated to sign Sexton after this season.
OTOH, if Okoro figures it out over the next 65 games and turns out to be a defensive stopper who can kick in 12 points a game while Rubio indicates he wants to come back at an affordable cost, then the Cavs may feel that Collin's $50 million can be put to better use somewhere else.
It looks like the Cavs are going to be primarily a defensive team this year, holding opponents under 100 points consistently while scoring just enough to win. A starting lineup of Allen, Mobley, Mark, Okoro, and Garland should be outstanding defensively. With Love, Cedi, and Rubio coming off the bench this could be a pretty good team even without Sexton. They were 7-4 with him. Let's see what the record is without him.
It could depend on whether they can sign Rubio to an extension. If Rubio leaves after this season and if it becomes apparent that Okoro is not a starting 2-guard, then the Cavs would be more motivated to sign Sexton after this season.
OTOH, if Okoro figures it out over the next 65 games and turns out to be a defensive stopper who can kick in 12 points a game while Rubio indicates he wants to come back at an affordable cost, then the Cavs may feel that Collin's $50 million can be put to better use somewhere else.
It looks like the Cavs are going to be primarily a defensive team this year, holding opponents under 100 points consistently while scoring just enough to win. A starting lineup of Allen, Mobley, Mark, Okoro, and Garland should be outstanding defensively. With Love, Cedi, and Rubio coming off the bench this could be a pretty good team even without Sexton. They were 7-4 with him. Let's see what the record is without him.
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Really think we should start Windler. For the spacing and to see what we have in him. Mobley Allen Okoro is not good for spacing and that's even if LM can get his shot back. Also wouldn't be surprised if Mobley's shot regresses a bit with the injury. He has been shooting super well, not sure if that's him or we should expect a regression to the mean - I don't think he shot this well in college.
ETA wow Mobley gets autocorrected to Monkey that's really not good
ETA wow Mobley gets autocorrected to Monkey that's really not good
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The big problem the Cavs have when it comes to offering a contract to Sexton is that they challenged him this year to prove he could contribute to winning and do more than just score a lot on high usage. With Sexton out for the season, they're being deprived of that opportunity and Sexton still had a long way to go when it came to playing defense and/or playing within the flow of the offense. If it's $14M per over three years, that may, or man not constitute a discount. If it does, then his agent will know that there's a better offer elsewhere, and he won't take it. He'll only take it if it's the best offer, and if it's the best offer, it won't be viewed as a value contract in terms of a future trade. At least not initially. That first year you'll be paying him $14M to see if he can do the things you wanted to see him do this year.
The other problem the Cavs, and Sexton, have is that when a player's market drops to the guaranteed-to-match range, teams generally decline to make that offer because all you're doing is hooking up the competition with a value contract. It's why Hart, and to a lesser extent, Lauri remained on the market so long. There were probably a half a dozen teams that would've offered Josh Hart an MLE deal pretty early in free agency, but if the end result is that Hart gets play for the Pelicans on the MLE, it's a hard pass.
The team that could come in and do something stupid is the Pistons. Sexton's a pretty good fit with Cade and Bey, they suck, they'll be sitting on a ton of cap space, and Hayes looks like a miss to me. If they make a stupid offer, the Cavs need to wish the young man well and let him go. In fact, I'd be concerned enough about that possibility, that if another team who would match a stupid offer wanted to trade for Sexton in order to get his Bird Rights this season, I'd listen.
The other problem the Cavs, and Sexton, have is that when a player's market drops to the guaranteed-to-match range, teams generally decline to make that offer because all you're doing is hooking up the competition with a value contract. It's why Hart, and to a lesser extent, Lauri remained on the market so long. There were probably a half a dozen teams that would've offered Josh Hart an MLE deal pretty early in free agency, but if the end result is that Hart gets play for the Pelicans on the MLE, it's a hard pass.
The team that could come in and do something stupid is the Pistons. Sexton's a pretty good fit with Cade and Bey, they suck, they'll be sitting on a ton of cap space, and Hayes looks like a miss to me. If they make a stupid offer, the Cavs need to wish the young man well and let him go. In fact, I'd be concerned enough about that possibility, that if another team who would match a stupid offer wanted to trade for Sexton in order to get his Bird Rights this season, I'd listen.
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I'm talking about offering Sexton the 3/42 next summer assuming the surgery goes well and his recovery appears to be on track for a 100% success.
Would Sexton turn it down in hopes of getting more after next season? Maybe. But there's always the chance of another injury. If he turns it down, no harm done. If he takes it and makes a full recovery we have a 25 pig scorer at $14M per year for three years.
But, yeah, the kicker is the Cavs may still not know if what he does makes them win more games and if whatever they offer him might be better spent on a wing.
Would Sexton turn it down in hopes of getting more after next season? Maybe. But there's always the chance of another injury. If he turns it down, no harm done. If he takes it and makes a full recovery we have a 25 pig scorer at $14M per year for three years.
But, yeah, the kicker is the Cavs may still not know if what he does makes them win more games and if whatever they offer him might be better spent on a wing.
Did you see my deleted post? I hope you liked that as much as I liked your sentiments in this post