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Do you re-sign Andre Drummond? How much?

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It is possible to make Drummond a winning bball player, What’s his biggest issue? Can he just be a rebounding vacuum and spend all his effort guarding the rim and only trying to score on offensive rebounds?
 
ice cream man said:
Detroit couldn't get anything for Drummond. Why the hell would we get anything close to Myles Turner or Tim Hardaway Jr and a 1st round pick? LOL come on
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That's fine. Then let him walk away for nothing.
 
Murph said:
That's fine. Then let him walk away for nothing.
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I am hoping we can get a decent young player for him at the deadline. He has value to a contender and is in last year of deal. We swap bad contracts and pick up a decent young player with upside or a late first round
Bottom line is we got him for free
 
Alec Zander said:
It is possible to make Drummond a winning bball player, What’s his biggest issue? Can he just be a rebounding vacuum and spend all his effort guarding the rim and only trying to score on offensive rebounds?
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Just guessing but I don't think Drummond sees himself as a Tristan Thompson clone. He wants to be involved heavily in the offense. If he's told to stand in the corner, stay out of the way, and then crash the glass once the shot goes up I think he would be a very unhappy camper.

Looking at the workout video Dre posted a while back he was dribbling, passing, driving to the rim off a pump fake, passing to the perimeter, and taking a corner three. A lot of movement and ball-handling. I pretty sure he is not open to a role similar to what Thompson had when he was here. And that doesn't seem to be what JBB has in mind for the big fella.

But the Cavs will lean on their talented frontcourt of Drummond, Kevin Love and Larry Nance Jr.. -- players Bickerstaff believes can initiate as offensive hubs.

McGee’s absence has also allowed more time for the Drummond-Love pairing, which will be featured prominently, to evolve.

“Their skill sets match. Their versatility goes well with one another,” Bickerstaff said. “I think Andre is an underrated passer. I think we know what Kevin can do with the ball in his hands. But they create opportunities for one another.

“Dre’s ability to dominate the paint allows Kevin to play on the perimeter and space the perimeter. Kevin’s ability to score in small spaces and Dre’s ability to play vertically allows Kevin to get down in the post and if they want to bring help, Dre can space the floor with his verticality and being able to throw the ball to the rim. They play well together. There are some things that we can do with them that will be fun, you know what I mean?

“You can get into some big pick and roll and that type of stuff to showcase some of their abilities, but I think playing that partner game between the two of them will be really good.” - Chris Fedor, 12/08/20
 
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Drummond and Thompson are as different as they can be. Drummond is the more elite physically. He is as long, tall, agile and strong as any modern center, with excellent movement from basket to basket.. He is a tough stop once he gets the ball low..

Thompson WS a hard hat undersized center, with a limited offensive skill set. He was often tasked with defending taller bigger centers and did pretty well just because he was strong and committed and unselfish..

The knock on Drummond has always been doubts about his commitment to play hard on both ends. A lot of turnovers in the paint from sloppy habits, and some egocentric decisions. Even before he was drafted there were doubts about his willingness to play..

At this point in he career Drummond can either continue to coast, where he trends toward ring chasing at vet min, or he can re-invent himself in the modern game and get paid big for another five years.. He has the talent to do the latter, but its a long shot he actually pulls it off.

The Cavs are in a win win situation with him.. He wins by transforming into a winning vector, playing hard defense and scoring down low for those stretches of the game where our scoring engines are resting, it where matchups favor us. If he does that he commands an excellent contract, which the Cavs can trade for more than they gave up to get him..

The Cavs get to experiment with a genuine big, which they have not had since Moz.. in combination with thier young back court.. a Drummond / Garland PNR should be unstoppable...

I think this year informs the FO in regards to where to draft bigs and how to value thier skillets in the modern NBA..
 
Los216 said:
Since he entered the league Andre Drummond is top 5 in Rebounds, Steals, and Blocks.
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And yet, teams he's on are often better defensively with him on the bench.
 
Cassity14 said:
And yet, teams he's on are often better defensively with him on the bench.
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So, I guess you believe Drummond was the problem in Detroit and it wasn’t the guys around him??
 
I would love to see Drummond get some reps as a high post hub. He was doing that to some moderate success the year they traded for Blake before the trade. He has good vision and is a decent passer for a big, even though he is super sloppy dribbling. Put him in positions to pass but not dribble much. He would be great on the short roll for this as well.
 
He's going to be better with Larry and Love than anyone he has ever played with. I don't think he is getting a pass all year like he might have in the honeymoon phase. He has to know that playingt he right way is important this year. His team gave him away
 
sailfish said:
So, I guess you believe Drummond was the problem in Detroit and it wasn’t the guys around him??
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The problem? No.

I do believe he has put up a lot of unimpactful numbers in his career thus far, but I don't think he's a cancer or anything.

I think there is a lot of talk on this forum right now about him being what fans want him to be and believe he can be, but that doesn't mean he's shown it thus far. To this point, he's never shown the ability to make a large difference in winning basketball games. *should* he be able to be a defensive anchor? Yes.

He's got the physical talent and size, but his motor has often been an issue, and I don't think he plays anywhere near to within his limitations.

All of that said, he's made multiple all-star games for reasons, and he is capable of leaving his large footprint on games. I believe he could be one of the better players on a really good team if he plays focused and within himself.
 
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