Early 22 GM Thread! (Trade Ideas here)

[Gson]

If you look at his numbers, I dont feel like there is going to be a lot if any regression to him. He has been given a chance to play everyday. He had 325 ABs in 90ish games with Houston and 140ish ABs in the 35 games with Cleveland. The only major difference between Houston and Cleveland numbers is his Line drive percentage and ground ball percentages. He has been hitting more LDs since coming to Cleveland and less groundballs. If he can keep that up, there won't be any regression at all...

regression can go both directions when discussing baseball statistics.. however odd that is...

 

[CATS44]

One thing I expect to see this last several weeks is Hentges getting a lot of work.

That will give us a look at our lefty bullpen situation.

Big, hard throwing lefty with a curve ball...and the prototype for late developing MLB pitcher.

 

[CATS44]

Some folks don't believe in the value of elite base running, which includes a lot more than stealing bases.

But focusing on just stealing bases, there are several studies that have been done on it. The general concensus is that to be of value over the course of the season, a success rate of 70-75% is necessary.

Ours is well over 80%.

But all the studies agree that as scoring goes down, the value of base stealing...and base running skills... go up.

Somebody denigrated a lineup full of Straws.

But my dream team is five Myles Straws...elite defenders, high contact bats, and elite baserunners...to go with Jose, Franmil, one more middle of the order bat, and our catchers.

The average number of pitches per plate appearance is 3.91.

Straw is averaging 4.17...8th in the AL. (JRam is 9th. Canha is 2nd)

Straws OBP is .347 this season, .341 for his career. The average OBP this year is .315.

A lineup that had a .333 OBP and averaged 4.17 pitches per plate appearance would wear pitchers out.

Chicago's rotation this year is elite. Its regular rotation averages 90 pitches per game and 5.1 IP. The average rotation is worse.

But using 90 pitches as an average, a SP would face two more batters and have one more base runner.

There are 146 pitches thrown in the average game. Against this lineup, that number would go up to 164.

Over 162 games thats 2900 more pitches.

I'd take my chances with that every year, esp throwing in the defense behind our pitching and the elite baserunning.

 

[33Y0]

Some folks don't believe in the value of elite base running, which includes a lot more than stealing bases.

But focusing on just stealing bases, there are several studies that have been done on it. The general concensus is that to be of value over the course of the season, a success rate of 70-75% is necessary.

Ours is well over 80%.

But all the studies agree that as scoring goes down, the value of base stealing...and base running skills... go up.

Somebody denigrated a lineup full of Straws.

But my dream team is five Myles Straws...elite defenders, high contact bats, and elite baserunners...to go with Jose, Franmil, one more middle of the order bat, and our catchers.

The average number of pitches per plate appearance is 3.91.

Straw is averaging 4.17...8th in the AL. (JRam is 9th. Canha is 2nd)

Straws OBP is .347 this season, .341 for his career. The average OBP this year is .315.

A lineup that had a .333 OBP and averaged 4.17 pitches per plate appearance would wear pitchers out.

Chicago's rotation this year is elite. Its regular rotation averages 90 pitches per game and 5.1 IP. The average rotation is worse.

But using 90 pitches as an average, a SP would face two more batters and have one more base runner.

There are 146 pitches thrown in the average game. Against this lineup, that number would go up to 164.

Over 162 games thats 2900 more pitches.

I'd take my chances with that every year, esp throwing in the defense behind our pitching and the elite baserunning.

Excellent post.

 

[Gson]

One thing I expect to see this last several weeks is Hentges getting a lot of work.

That will give us a look at our lefty bullpen situation.

Big, hard throwing lefty with a curve ball...and the prototype for late developing MLB pitcher.

Like:

Blake Walston
Tommy Henry
Dax Fulton
Brandon Williamson

..who, if made available, relatively inexpensive..

 

[sportscoach]

Like:

Blake Walston
Tommy Henry
Dax Fulton
Brandon Williamson

..who, if made available, relatively inexpensive..

Question is how many of them have big league experience? I really want a veteran out there..

 

[CDAV45]

Some folks don't believe in the value of elite base running, which includes a lot more than stealing bases.

But focusing on just stealing bases, there are several studies that have been done on it. The general concensus is that to be of value over the course of the season, a success rate of 70-75% is necessary.

Ours is well over 80%.

But all the studies agree that as scoring goes down, the value of base stealing...and base running skills... go up.

Somebody denigrated a lineup full of Straws.

But my dream team is five Myles Straws...elite defenders, high contact bats, and elite baserunners...to go with Jose, Franmil, one more middle of the order bat, and our catchers.

The average number of pitches per plate appearance is 3.91.

Straw is averaging 4.17...8th in the AL. (JRam is 9th. Canha is 2nd)

Straws OBP is .347 this season, .341 for his career. The average OBP this year is .315.

A lineup that had a .333 OBP and averaged 4.17 pitches per plate appearance would wear pitchers out.

Chicago's rotation this year is elite. Its regular rotation averages 90 pitches per game and 5.1 IP. The average rotation is worse.

But using 90 pitches as an average, a SP would face two more batters and have one more base runner.

There are 146 pitches thrown in the average game. Against this lineup, that number would go up to 164.

Over 162 games thats 2900 more pitches.

I'd take my chances with that every year, esp throwing in the defense behind our pitching and the elite baserunning.

Which good/successful MLB lineup has "5 Myles Straws" in it? If you want to put butts in the seats I believe you'll need a fun offense to watch. 5 Myles Straws ain't gonna do that IMO. I'll give you that it could be an effective offense, but no easier to assemble than adding 2 or 3 more bats with some power.

This is just my opinion obviously, but I think we need at least 1 potent RHH corner OF bat that can also handle 1B duties, 2 would be better. We definitely need a C that can hit better than what we had this year. After that I think we'd be the team to beat. We'll have the speed/base stealing ability from Straw, Rosario, JRam, and whoever is playing 2B(likely Gimenez). I think Zimmer will be back as the 4th OFer too, so his speed will be available.

Give me that with this pitching staff and I'll be ecstatic. The real question is how much can guys like Jones or Gonzalez contribute? How does Arias factor in if he comes out guns a blazin'? Rocchio is hitting the shit out of the ball the last I looked. I don't know but one would think that some team out there that matches up with what Cleveland has to offer. SF comes to mind with Yaz and Bart.

 

[xmasbuck]

Most stolen bases by team

KC
San Diego
Miami
Cleveland
Texas

 

[Criznit]

Which good/successful MLB lineup has "5 Myles Straws" in it? If you want to put butts in the seats I believe you'll need a fun offense to watch. 5 Myles Straws ain't gonna do that IMO. I'll give you that it could be an effective offense, but no easier to assemble than adding 2 or 3 more bats with some power.

This is just my opinion obviously, but I think we need at least 1 potent RHH corner OF bat that can also handle 1B duties, 2 would be better. We definitely need a C that can hit better than what we had this year. After that I think we'd be the team to beat. We'll have the speed/base stealing ability from Straw, Rosario, JRam, and whoever is playing 2B(likely Gimenez). I think Zimmer will be back as the 4th OFer too, so his speed will be available.

Give me that with this pitching staff and I'll be ecstatic. The real question is how much can guys like Jones or Gonzalez contribute? How does Arias factor in if he comes out guns a blazin'? Rocchio is hitting the shit out of the ball the last I looked. I don't know but one would think that some team out there that matches up with what Cleveland has to offer. SF comes to mind with Yaz and Bart.

I agree..

If Myles Straws is that much of a difference maker, why'd we get him for practically nothing? Because Houston has better options.

He is a table setter, and needs support to succeed. He is a great addition to our lineup as it currently stands and will get on base. But it's up to Jose, Franmil, etc. to cash in on that.

A lineup "FULL" of Straws and Ameds is average at best. It's the Joses, Franmils that make those guys work.

I'll take a line up of Franmils over a lineup of Straws everyday... Might even take a lineup of Bradleys over a lineup of Straws as well.

 

[Criznit]

Most stolen bases by team

KC
San Diego
Miami
Cleveland
Texas

Considering the records of these teams.....

 

[DCTribefan]

I agree..

If Myles Straws is that much of a difference maker, why'd we get him for practically nothing? Because Houston has better options.

He is a table setter, and needs support to succeed. He is a great addition to our lineup as it currently stands and will get on base. But it's up to Jose, Franmil, etc. to cash in on that.

A lineup "FULL" of Straws and Ameds is average at best. It's the Joses, Franmils that make those guys work.

I'll take a line up of Franmils over a lineup of Straws everyday... Might even take a lineup of Bradleys over a lineup of Straws as well.

Altuve leading off was the option—a clear upgrade over Straw. Doesn’t hurt that Houston’s top prospects are outfielders as well (Jake Meyers).

 

[CATS44]

Somebody must have not read my post.

5 Straws...Jose, Franmil, another middle of the order bat, and our catchers.

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A lineup full of Straws would beat a lineup full of DHs.

I'd love to watch nine big, slow, unathletic DHs play defense while all the Straws merrily zip around the bases.

I dont know what anybody else thinks, but watching Straw, Amed, Jose, Miller, Zimmer, Gimenez, Chang, and Clement run the bases is pretty exciting.

I also think watching Straw and Zimmer playing defense is, too.

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Home runs don't draw fans, or base running, or defense, or great pitching.

Winning draws fans, a pennant run in August and September. October baseball.

It doesn't matter how it happens, just so it does happen.

 

[Criznit]

Wasn't talking about/to you or your post.

 

[sportscoach]

Wasn't talking about/to you or your post.

The "5 Straws" was his post that CDav responded to which you responded to so you just extended the reply to Cats post (at least he took it that way) and he felt the whole post wasn't read..

Either way, I like @CATS44 logic over @CDAV45 since you need guys on base to get the big inning plus sometimes you need to get the hit after hit to get the offense going... I prefer most of the lineup to be high contact over high power, while CDav has more of a power over contact style.. They are differing styles that produce different outcomes...

 

[Gson]

Question is how many of them have big league experience? I really want a veteran out there..

None of these guys have MLB experience..

Here are their projected arrival date to MLB:

Blake Walston ETA MLB = 2023
Tommy Henry ETA MLB = 2022
Dax Fulton ETA MLB = 2024
Brandon Williamson MLB ETA = 2023