GAME 68 | Cavaliers vs Heat | Wednesday Mar. 20 7:00 pm

[Rich]

But then again, why is our game plan to attack Ray Allen, when our extremely young and inexperienced bigs are destroying them inside?

We can't adjust when we see success inside and they put Allen on Boobs? Make an adjustment.

Again, I have no clue why this team forgets Thompson exists in the second half. They've done it all year.

As for Allen, it's because he's that bad. Every time Allen was on Livingston, Livingston knew wtf was up and went right at him. It's something everyone is going to exploit in the playoffs. If they play the Spurs, they'll have to find a safe place to hide him when Ginobli and Parker are in the game, and I'm not sure where that is.

 

[KI4MVP]

I couldn't disagree more. Nothing personal at all, but for one massive game, when everything is going right, I don't give a fuck about a guys knee problems. He signed up to play basketball. I doubt he signed a minute per game limit when he signed his contract.

I want to best 5 out there as much as I can get. After watching Boobie play for 2 minutes, you could tell he didn't belong on an NBA court tonight.

we are kind of out of choices. Our normal starting guards are out, the two starting guards tonight played 41 and 37 minutes and the 41 minute guy was running on fumes when he was expected to take the game winning shot with 5 seconds left.

 

[billmac91]

No, I will squarely put most of this loss on Daniel Gibson and that's that.

Do you realize part of the plan tonight was to attack Ray Allen, because Ray Allen is quite possibly the worst defensive guard in the league right now? Do you realize when Gibson came in, they put Allen on him, and Gibson could, honest to god, not get by him? Like, he tried a few times, and COULD NOT DO IT. Moreover, he simply turned the ball over with Ray fucking Allen on him. Nah, most of that loss is on Gibson. He simply killed the entire offense for the, what, 4 minutes he played in the 3rd quarter? Almost exclusively on him.

So why not let Livingston right the ship for the first 3 minutes of the fourth, let Boobie play minutes 9 through 6, and then let Shaun take the last 6 minutes of the game.

You don't, under any circumstances, let Miami essentially go on a 30 point run over 8 minutes. I understand that has been Byron's MO this year, and I believe it is part of the tanking process, but tonight he could have resorted to what a normal coach does, and just give 6 minute blows.


It has to be a part of the tank....it just has to be. No coach can be that stubborn/stupid. I'd have hoped Byron would have "normalized" the rotation for one special evening such as tonight, but I guess not.

 

[FlatulenciaRoar]

For me it was a very entertaining if ultimately frustrating game. Like others, I don't see why Luke stayed on the floor. In some recent games he's contributed a lot, but against the Heat it just looked like the game was too fast for him. And I don't even want to thnk about Boobie.

 

[Surge]

Again, I have no clue why this team forgets Thompson exists in the second half. They've done it all year.

As for Allen, it's because he's that bad. Every time Allen was on Livingston, Livingston knew wtf was up and went right at him. It's something everyone is going to exploit in the playoffs. If they play the Spurs, they'll have to find a safe place to hide him when Ginobli and Parker are in the game, and I'm not sure where that is.

I agree with the bottom part. But isn't consistently "forgetting" your best offensive inside presence a reflection of coaching/gameplan?

When they switch Allen to Boobie,and Boobie shits the bed a couple times, I tell him to go stand in the corner while I feed the post.

 

[KI4MVP]

The defenders of Scott are missing the bigger point....

For one night, our starters didn't need 8 minute blows. It's been a point of contention for me the entire season, but again, I get it. Kyrie typically comes out around the 9-10 minute mark in the third, and doesn't come back in until the last 6 minutes. It's craziness even for a fragile PG. I've honestly believed it was part of the tanking process, b/c to sit your star the first 6 minutes of the most important period is insane. 99% of NBA coaches bring their stars back in at 8 minutes in the 4th.

Tonight was an extension of that. Tristan got pulled in the third with 4 minutes left on the clock. Miami then cut the lead from 24 to 9. Miami then went on a 9-0 run to start the 4th, and Tristan still didn't see the court until the 8 minute mark. For one night, Byron could really have gone wild, and given our second year player a few extra minutes. I don't think anyone would have minded if Tristan had to sit an extra 2 minutes in their next game just to make sure he doesn't get too tired.

It's really no different with Shaun. I understand his knee history, but the guy really could have come in to start the 4th to get some type of rhythm back offensively, and then substitute him out at the 9 minutes mark for a 3 minute blow.

The point is, you don't rest your best players 8 minutes at a time. Unless you are intentionally trying to sabotage your team, which is a possibility. But not tonight. You don't do it tonight. Not to these fans, and not on a night when Miami is going for 24 straight. It was bullshit.

No he didn't. The box score shows he played the whole 3rd quarter (he took a shot with 2minutes left in the quarter) and he sat for less than 4 minutes of the 4th quarter (coming in at the 8:15 mark). So he sat 3:45 of the 2nd half.

 

[Rich]

Final thing, but the refs need to get off of Miami's dick. Heat shot 30 FTs tonight to Cavs 17. More impressive is that Chris Anderson, a guy who never actually gets the ball on offense, somehow ends up with 8, which is twice as many as any of our players.

 

[billmac91]

So those 8 minutes of blow are the reason we lost? Oh ok because I thought it was because they were human and any human usually gets 8 minutes of NBA breather but I guess I was sadly mistaken. I suppose you're right and the players tonight would have had super human strength in order to completely blow out a 24 win streak team with ease.

We should have beat them by 27 points easy... What the hell was Byron doing?

Are you seriously suggesting it would take SUPER HUMAN STRENGTH to take a 6 minute rest instead of an 8 minute rest? An 8 minute rest than includes a 3 minute break between the third and 4th quarters as well.

I don't think you understand the intricacies in the game at all so this debate is pretty pointless.

 

[mAo_mAo]

Reason I love B Scott- He is the father figure of our young superstar.

Reasons I hate B Scott- His rotations, our atrocious defense, our atrocious pick and roll iso offense, and his stubborness.

 

[Huber.]

The guy that ran on the court said "I miss you. Please come back" to LeBron.




I promise it wasn't me.

 

[KI4MVP]

You watch a 27pt lead dwindle down while Luke Walton and Daniel gibson are on the floor barely hitting the rim on their shot, and turning the ball over!!! Are you f***ing kidding me!?!? Zeller and Thompson looked great tonight but you let them rot on the bench. If you werent going to play Zeller in the 4th then you should have let him pick up 2 more fouls in the 3rd. He boxed out an kept them off the glass.

I loved Byron Scott, but his rotations tonight were pathetic, he stood there like a punk when his team got screwed, and called zero plays for TT in the 2nd half. Christ, when he had that 10 on bosh in q1, I would have kept feeding him the entire damn game. Throw a Mike Brown fit with a few minutes left to fire up your team. That would have jump started our comeback, and we may have not been to late.

In the whole second half, they combined for taking only 5 shots, making 2 of them.

Walton had an assist, a steal, a made a shot, a missed shot and two turnovers
Gibson took 3 shots, made a 3, had one turnover

We blew a 27 point lead. How do you blame that on 3 turnovers and 3 missed shots?

 

[MRMsix6]

Daniel Gibson: 14 minutes, -26
Luke Walton: 16 minutes, -34

impressive

 

[KI4MVP]

Are you seriously suggesting it would take SUPER HUMAN STRENGTH to take a 6 minute rest instead of an 8 minute rest? An 8 minute rest than includes a 3 minute break between the third and 4th quarters as well.

I don't think you understand the intricacies in the game at all so this debate is pretty pointless.

he sat 3:45

 

[Rich]

In the whole second half, they combined for taking only 5 shots, making 2 of them.

Walton had an assist, a steal, a made a shot, a missed shot and two turnovers
Gibson took 3 shots, made a 3, had one turnover

We blew a 27 point lead. How do you blame that on 3 turnovers and 3 missed shots?

Because that's how awful they were? Particularly Gibson. The reason no one else got any good looks is primarily due to him.

 

[Rich]

Oh, and Gibson only being credited with 2 TOs is a joke. I can think of 3 off the top of my head, and I think they gave one of them to Walton.