Let it All Out: 2021 Browns Rant Thread

[LennoxLewis]

Getting the ball out quicker would have helped Hudson as well.

Not a rant, but sucks that they had a phenomenal off-season followed by the playoff run to have it end like it did this week.

 

[Jake]

The Browns ship has sailed and nothing I see within the division looks hopeful for us. Burrow and crew look like the future or will soon enough, the steelers own us, and the ravens will be back. And our coach of the year looks like a schmuck right now.

 

[CBBI]

It was uncomfortable at times watching Baker absolutely drown last night, but I mean we have to also be honest with ourselves on a few things.

I want to watch the All-22 to confirm it, but it certainly appears that Baker’s ineptitude was the clear and unquestionably main reason why things sucked so bad and why it looked like Stefanski was actively punishing Baker.

Like if Baker just functioned like a normal QB and was able to successfully complete simple passes to open WRs, the Browns score a bunch of points and win easily even with poor James Hudson getting dominated all night.

Now that I’ve had the whole night to think about it, that’s where I’m getting lost with all this “Stefanski is a slime ball!” thing.

Like Stefanski is a piece of shit for asking his QB to make simple pass plays?

If you’re suggesting with a straight face that Stefanski sold Baker out last night, then you’re also admitting that you know Baker is terrible because there were literally dozens of plays that should’ve been made by a competent quarterback.

 

[CBBI]

If your argument is “shame on Stefanski for not protecting his QB against his quarterback’s own shittiness by calling so many passing plays instead of running the ball 50 times” that ultimately glosses over the biggest and most fatal issue with that argument.

The quarterback is bad.

 

[chrisrich91]

Have you missed the point that about half the fans are making, that last night was an intentional and strategic move by the Browns organization to expose Mayfield as a substandard QB option so they can cut ties with minimal negative fan reaction and backlash?

I haven’t missed it, I’ve intentionally ignored it. I don’t believe that is the case at all.

The organization is way too smart to have a coordinated effort like that, which if leaked could destroy the perception and credibility of all involved.

At most you could convince me that Stefanski finally chose to neglect to bend over backwards to cater to Baker’s extreme shittiness and mask all his weaknesses. He chose to not completely handcuff the offense to make up for this schmuck, and see if he could deliver like a legitimate NFL QB.

That wouldn’t be considered slimy or unethical. That’s simply gathering an evaluation point with gigantic financial decisions looming.

But yeah I’m not with the hit piece theory.

 

[shoes22]

If your argument is “shame on Stefanski for not protecting his QB against his quarterback’s own shittiness by calling so many passing plays instead of running the ball 50 times” that ultimately glosses over the biggest and most fatal issue with that argument.

The quarterback is bad.

We fucking know. Everyone and their mother knows the quarterback is bad at this point. What Stefanski did last night by continuing to do the same thing over and over again and let Baker get killed and struggle mightily with zero adjustments is borderline sadistic and seriously makes me question his viability as a coach.

 

[Dr. Claw]

The gamble at QB failed.
Draft someone in the 2nd round. Would rather they not go for a "Mike Glennon" type

 

[CBBI]

Any argument against Stefanski is being prefaced with…

“I know Baker sucks, but…”

If that disclaimer is being said before you’re about to criticize the coach, maybe stop and re-evaluate what you’re about to say.

 

[DJTJ]

We fucking know. Everyone and their mother knows the quarterback is bad at this point. What Stefanski did last night by continuing to do the same thing over and over again and let Baker get killed and struggle mightily with zero adjustments is borderline sadistic and seriously makes me question his viability as a coach.

If receivers are getting open, and Baker isn’t delivering, why would you make any switch?

Make the play. We’re openly penalizing KS for this, but probably win that game if Baker wasn’t incompetent.

I can’t grasp that as being something relevant. It was the same gameplay versus Arizona. It wasn’t shitty then, when Baker was arguably way more hurt/pain, so why is it shitty now?

 

[Vee-Rex]

We fucking know. Everyone and their mother knows the quarterback is bad at this point. What Stefanski did last night by continuing to do the same thing over and over again and let Baker get killed and struggle mightily with zero adjustments is borderline sadistic and seriously makes me question his viability as a coach.

I have my criticisms of Stefanski this year but what exactly should he have done this game? He ran short routes. He rans screens. He went 11 personnel. He went empty. Heavy formations. Guys got open at multiple levels.

If the answer is to run Chubb/Johnson non-stop when we're down multiple scores the majority of the game, then that's kind of messed up, don't you think? I don't think he went out there and said, "We're gonna expose Baker for the world to see." I think he went out there and said, "We're down, we're not gonna shield Baker and hamstring him from being able to grab us this win. We're going to give him an opportunity to do so."

 

[shoes22]

Any argument against Stefanski is being prefaced with…

“I know Baker sucks, but…”

If that is disclaimer is being said before you’re about to criticize the coach, maybe stop and re-evaluate what you’re about to say.

In your world, if the quarterback sucks, that completely and totally absolves the head coach of any blame or criticism, and that’s complete bullshit. You’re better than that.

 

[Liam]

Whether out of spite or not, Baker had his season high in pass attempts (38), and probably his season low in performance to match. It’s amazing to me how a HC/playcaller can get this much backlash for drawing up play after play after play that got receivers open. To paraphrase a famous Giselle quote: Stefanski cannot f*cking throw the ball and call the plays at the same time.

Unironically the story of the season has been the more our QB throws, the worse our win % gets.

 

[shoes22]

If the answer is to run Chubb/Johnson non-stop when we're down multiple scores the majority of the game, then that's kind of messed up, don't you think? I don't think he went out there and said, "We're gonna expose Baker for the world to see." I think he went out there and said, "We're down, we're not gonna shield Baker and hamstring him from being able to grab us this win. We're going to give him an opportunity to do so."

How is that messed up? The game was within 1 or 2 scores from start to finish, it wasn’t a blow out.

There was certainly opportunity to actually try and win the game by utilizing your best offensive player (Chubb) if you were Stefanski. That is the head coach’s primary responsibility, to find a way to win games with the personnel you have, for better or worse. If he was not putting his team in the best position to win the game, then he of course deserves criticism.

 

[DJTJ]

How is that messed up? The game was within 1 or 2 scores from start to finish, it wasn’t a blow out.

There was certainly opportunity to actually try and win the game by utilizing your best offensive player (Chubb) if you were Stefanski. That is the head coach’s primary responsibility, to find a way to win games with the personnel you have, for better or worse. If he was not putting his team in the best position to win the game, then he of course deserves criticism.

Chubb was hurt? KS answered why he didn’t use Chubb more.

 

[CBBI]

In your world, if the quarterback sucks, that completely and totally absolves the head coach of any blame or criticism, and that’s complete bullshit. You’re better than that.

If a coach calls a passing play that results in an open receiver and the QB isn't able complete the pass because of his own shittiness, is that somehow the coach's fault?

Because I'd be willing to bet that's happened a hundred times this season. Literally.

This is professional football for goodness sake. It's not Pop Warner. These guys are paid a shitload of money to execute the plays that are right in front of them.