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Minor League Game Thread 5/1-5/7

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I noticed going into tonight's game, Cantillo faced Portland with a record of 16-5. I would think that team has some pretty good hitters with a record like that. The stat line he put up has to make the front office take notice.
 
sportscoach said:
I am not against that idea at all...

Though maybe its better to piggyback at AAA since the AAA guys are at least scoring lol Akron is pitching not hitting at the moment.
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Honestly, every level needs some pitching to one extent or another. Yet, as with MLB, some major changes need to come. And, even at Akron, they are not pitching that well except for Williams and Cantillo who Bimbo just said was just developmentally just a bit behind Williams and Bibee but equal talent (if healthy). Leftwich is a bit unlucky (good whip and BAA but bad ERA). Yet, Nikhazy is struggling and Carver went on the IL. And with Akron's hitting, you don't have to worry about their playoff chances. If Cantillo is top-10 talent level, you do what is best for him (a few more starts).

By end of May, it should be
MLB - Bieber, McK, Civale, Bibee, Allen (but what to do with Quant and Plesac - yet Allen should work on his cutter in AAA for a little bit too)
AAA - Williams, Battenfield, Gaddis, Cantillo, Norris/Scott/Touki (saving space for them really???) (leave Curry up in pen)
AA - Nikhazy, Leftwich, Stanley, Dion, Mace, Carver (really not even much room for Cantillo with or without Dion)
A+ Delholm, Mace, Webb, Boone, Davenport, Johnston (actually a lot of talent that should be moving up like Mace too - due to age and Delholm is off to good start). And, Columbus has proven, there are enough relievers around to piggy-back guys who are not stretched out yet.

Then add in - Hankins (need high A innings for a month or two) and maybe Campbell (start in high-A) and Hajjar somewhere ... need to push these guys
 
I guess the one thing looking at Cantillo this morning, and probably why I haven’t exactly heard about him, he’s only pitched in 90 innings in the 3 years he’s been with us.

The numbers over that time are pretty crazy though. 1.80 ERA and 131 strikeouts in 90 innings is ridiculous. Wonder if this kid gets a shot this season.
 
Cleveland is the Reason said:
I guess the one thing looking at Cantillo this morning, and probably why I haven’t exactly heard about him, he’s only pitched in 90 innings in the 3 years he’s been with us.

The numbers over that time are pretty crazy though. 1.80 ERA and 131 strikeouts in 90 innings is ridiculous. Wonder if this kid gets a shot this season.
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Hard to say really because there are a lot of impending circumstances. This organization isn't typically aggressive with their promotions. On the other hand you have a few posters like myself who believe that he isn't being challenged in AA(regardless of IP) and should be promoted ASAP. I've been saying for awhile that I believe that Bibee, Williams, Allen and now Cantillo at bare minimum can give you what Quantrill, Civale and Plesac are. To be honest, I think they are simply more talented and would give this team a better chance to win. That's nothing but opinion.

Edited to add that you might want to keep an eye on Hankins. He's the same type of talent, but just fully recovered from TJS at the end of last season. Once he gets going he could advance quickly.
 
Cleveland is the Reason said:
I guess the one thing looking at Cantillo this morning, and probably why I haven’t exactly heard about him, he’s only pitched in 90 innings in the 3 years he’s been with us.

The numbers over that time are pretty crazy though. 1.80 ERA and 131 strikeouts in 90 innings is ridiculous. Wonder if this kid gets a shot this season.
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Literally if Cantillo stays healthy, he's on the roster in 24, either competing for the rotation or being a reliable reliever... He's got to good of an arm and potential not to be...
 

I wonder if he's experimenting with a 2-seamer or if his pitch is just moving different? This is consistent with @petes999 's assumption of the gun being off the other night though, with him still hitting 100 (so indirectly good for Hentges). I'll wait to see the movement data on it. 2-seamers are always labeled as "sinkers" in these things even if they don't really "sink" much, so it could be a lot of horizontal movement and less vertical rise.
 
At the end of his month trade Quantrill and go with Bieber, McKenzie, Bibee, Allen, and Civale. Next time Civale gets hurt (shouldn't be more than a few weeks), bring up Williams.

Next year after the Bieber trade for a centerfielder who can rake the rotation will be McKenzie, Bibee, Allen, Williams, and Cantillo. Two lefties - OMG!
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
At the end of his month trade Quantrill and go with Bieber, McKenzie, Bibee, Allen, and Civale. Next time Civale gets hurt (shouldn't be more than a few weeks), bring up Williams.

Next year after the Bieber trade for a centerfielder who can rake the rotation will be McKenzie, Bibee, Allen, Williams, and Cantillo. Two lefties - OMG!
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Actually if someone gets moved it would be Civale not Quantrill... Civale does have more upside but they cannot afford to trade the guy who shows up every single start... Quantrill is one of the better 4/5 starters in the league... Tell me how many starts has he missed? How many IL stints has he had since he got to the bigs? With Allen, Bibee and Williams having very solid potential, I'd rather keep the guy we know will be out there rather than the one, who has better numbers, when healthy...

Cantillo hasn't shown he can stay healthy yet and neither has Morris...

Also you need around 10 SPs on your 40 man, if we move Bieber, Civale/Quan and Plesac, who are our 10?
 
So Bibee and Allen are at the MLB level and having a lot of early success, Williams is dominating AAA throwing 100 mph sinkers, this Cantillo fella has a .50 ERA and strikes everyone out.

Anyone else out there just dominating right now?
 
Looking into the sinker thing more, that just appears to be a bad labelling. They were 4 seamers that moved like 4 seamers and didn't really have much differential between last game he started. Still a pitch that "moves up" pretty strongly (relative to a flat pitch) and doesn't have the large armside run of a 2-seamer. Not sure what the machine was seeing. The good news is just how hard he was throwing it. By far the fastest of the season at an average of 97.6 MPH although the radar guns all seem to have their issues.
 
KluberSociety said:
Looking into the sinker thing more, that just appears to be a bad labelling. They were 4 seamers that moved like 4 seamers and didn't really have much differential between last game he started. Still a pitch that "moves up" pretty strongly (relative to a flat pitch) and doesn't have the large armside run of a 2-seamer. Not sure what the machine was seeing. The good news is just how hard he was throwing it. By far the fastest of the season at an average of 97.6 MPH although the radar guns all seem to have their issues.
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Statcast has a nasty habit of occasionally marking fastballs sinkers.

I swear last year every pitcher who didn't throw a sinker was reported as throwing a sinker like 1.1% of the time.

Like, yeah Statcast, I'm sure that he throws a pitch less frequently than a single time per start. It couldn't possibly be that you're mislabeling it.
 
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