The official start Luke Jackson thread

[PIP]

Now I get it. LePip is Luke! No wonder he talks him up. Love how you refer to yourself in 3rd person to Pip.

But seriously..........Lepip is Luke Jackson.......

Ok, this Jones situation is getting out of hand. Something needs to be changed. If it means throwing Luke into the fire then so be it. If he struggles we are no worse off then currently.

TYPO, OR IS IT.. hmmmm :chuckles:

Karma is finally coming around...

That has been my point... If Luke's shot is not falling, what difference is it from Damon's not falling ?

Luke at least hustles, he comes off screens, passes well, will go after every loose ball, and will follow his own shot...

Damon shoots, then he winks at the cheerleaders, talks with fans, kisses babies, signs autographs, takes a couple pictures, then gets back on defense..

Luke brings more to the table then Jones...

 

[Coyote]

Please stop talking about this, for God's sake. The kid is really a rookie, is getting his chance, and when he's proven himself, Brown has given him the minutes. Until the past 4-5 games, he's sucked. He's learning his role on the team and learning what he has to do at a pro level. Fine. If you want to win games, you put the guys on the floor who are producing, or, like Jones, who have a track record of producing. Yes, bring Luke in more, put DJones back in his bench role, and see what happens.

Theoretically, Luke brings more to the floor than Jones. When he does it in the NBA, and not f-ing college ball against corn-fed rednecks from the monster zone of basketball known as IDAHO, then I'll buy that he's God's gift to professional basketball. Until then, let's cool the f-ing hyperbole.

 

[aggressivestyle]

Please stop talking about this, for God's sake. The kid is really a rookie, is getting his chance, and when he's proven himself, Brown has given him the minutes. Until the past 4-5 games, he's sucked. He's learning his role on the team and learning what he has to do at a pro level. Fine. If you want to win games, you put the guys on the floor who are producing, or, like Jones, who have a track record of producing. Yes, bring Luke in more, put DJones back in his bench role, and see what happens.

Theoretically, Luke brings more to the floor than Jones. When he does it in the NBA, and not f-ing college ball against corn-fed rednecks from the monster zone of basketball known as IDAHO, then I'll buy that he's God's gift to professional basketball. Until then, let's cool the f-ing hyperbole.

ok first off, i didn't say anything about Jackson starting, But to say he hasn't shown anything is not true, He is showing he can play in meaningful minutes, i understand why some want him to start.Even tho i don't agree to him starting, i still wish to see him for 10-20 minutes a night and see if he continues to produce, and if jones isn't then theres no choice but to start Luke.

 

[Karma]

Luke like Coyote states, has done very little to deserve big minutes. Personally I dont think at this stage of his career he has proven to be ready. However our current situation is dire at shooting guard. Jones has averaged less then 1 field goal made since he started. Ira Newble would even be ashamed of a stat line like that.

I think Coach Brown away from the prying eyes in Cleveland and with little expectation for results on this trip should look at trialling something at guard.

 

[Kypus]

Perhaps Brown could give Luke a few "short starts" - guarantee him the 1st 10 mins of the game for a few games. Show he can help set a defensive tone and go from there. Also if it is true he passes well to Z in the post, that's another thing he can contribute to in setting *our* tone instead of playing to the other teams'.

 

[Mac]

Please stop talking about this, for God's sake. The kid is really a rookie, is getting his chance, and when he's proven himself, Brown has given him the minutes. Until the past 4-5 games, he's sucked. He's learning his role on the team and learning what he has to do at a pro level. Fine. If you want to win games, you put the guys on the floor who are producing, or, like Jones, who have a track record of producing. Yes, bring Luke in more, put DJones back in his bench role, and see what happens.

Theoretically, Luke brings more to the floor than Jones. When he does it in the NBA, and not f-ing college ball against corn-fed rednecks from the monster zone of basketball known as IDAHO, then I'll buy that he's God's gift to professional basketball. Until then, let's cool the f-ing hyperbole.

He played at Oregon...Pac 10...thats major college basketball.

he was a lottery pick, lottery picks were brought into play. Everybody else has sucked it up, Luke has done positive when given minutes.

Its time for him to get major minutes...bottom line.

 

[Maximus]

I'd start him for a few.....we need to find out what he can do with the starters. Can't do any worse tham DJ has. If nothing esle, maybe it will creates some trade value where there isn't any right now.

 

[Coyote]

I don't disagree that we're forced into a position where Luke needs to either start or play serious minutes. But the hyperbole here is killin' me. Luke's played better, Brown has given him minutes. OK.

And I know Luke went to Oregon. I was just picking on Idaho, which was mean, since it's a beautiful state. My point was that the level of competition there (in the Pac-10) has not been much over the past decade or so I've followed college ball. Good programs, but not dominant, so Luke's dominance in said league doesn't grant him a pass in my book. It's what you do on the floor, or have done, at the pro level that earns you a start, at least on a team that should be hungry for a playoff spot.

 

[PIP]

He played at Oregon...Pac 10...thats major college basketball.

he was a lottery pick, lottery picks were brought into play. Everybody else has sucked it up, Luke has done positive when given minutes.

Its time for him to get major minutes...bottom line.

^^^^ Now that's "THE TRUTH"

Luke should play.... He should've gotten in that rotation awhile ago...Sasha is another story.. Why Sasha is still in the nba, much less on our roster, is beyond me ?

 

[aggressivestyle]

"I've got to continue to give him [Jackson] minutes, and I've got to continue to get him on the floor," said Cavs coach Mike Brown.

Link

 

[NarlCavs]

All most of us are saying is it's time to give Jackson regular consistent minutes. he doesn't have to start or play 25-30 minutes. With Hughes out they need his type of game and what he could bring to the floor. Brown can't keep giving all the major minutes to 4 G's, Snow, Jones, Newble and Wilks, who are bringing nothing to the table offensively.

I read where Jackson gets criticized for his production on the floor this year but I don't know how the hell he can be expected to provide any type of consistent production with the way he's been used. When you play 4 minutes, then 2, 12, 3, then don't play for 5 games, then play 8 minutes that you can't be expected to consistently produce when you're a young player.
Even if Luke got 10-15 minutes each game I think we'd see much more consistent production.

There is also some good talent playing in the PAC 10. Arizona, Stanford, and UCLA have been very good programs and Washington, Arizona St. and Cal have had success. Luke produced in a good conference with talented players. Yes college is much different than the NBA but his play at Oregon should still be considered positively.

 

[Maximus]

"Even if Luke got 10-15 minutes each game I think we'd see much more consistent production."

First 10 games of the season he was in the rotation and averaged almost 15 minutes a night.....unfortunately he did nothing. I hope he takes advantage of his opportunity this time around.

 

[PIP]

"Even if Luke got 10-15 minutes each game I think we'd see much more consistent production."

First 10 games of the season he was in the rotation and averaged almost 15 minutes a night.....unfortunately he did nothing. I hope he takes advantage of his opportunity this time around.

You're right...

With more time, he gaines confidence... With more time, he gaines experience...With more time, he will produce more...

I don't ecpect Luke to light it up... But I think we can all expect more production out of the SG spot with him in, then D-Jones...At the very least, that's an upgrade...

 

[NarlCavs]

The 1st 11 games of the season Luke did get more minutes. He also had games where he played, 6, 5, and 0 minutes in that stretch. That also was a time when the Cavs blew out some teams and many of his minutes were garbage time with end of the bench players and playground style basketball. I don't mean to make excuses since Luke didn't exactly light it up early in the year.
From Nov 30 until Jan 5, Jackson had 2 games where he played 5 minutes or more and many where he either didn't play or played 2-3 minutes.

The main point has been that right now Luke should be getting more minutes and his play on the court recently has been pretty solid. I'd rather give a young player some consistent time than continue to go with mediocre vets who lately haven't been producing what the Cavs need especially with Hughes out and his production and skills needed to be replaced.

 

[PIP]

'Stryker' is playing like a rookie tonight.... I wish h would play with a sense of calmness...

He seems to rush shots... He missed a couple easy ones tonight... But i'm sure he will put his cape on during ha;ftime and come out in the second half as "MAGIC JACKSON"