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2019 Cleveland Browns Regular Season

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1st: Nate Solder has never come close to sniffing a Pro Bowl.

2nd: Of all the things to care about, penalty yardage is about 12th on the list.

3rd: They are equally graded on PFF this year, and Nate Solder has been significantly worse at giving up sacks.

I think Greg Robinson stinks and if you can upgrade from him, then I have no problem doing it. But Nate Solder sucks and is not an upgrade at all. And since leaving Coach Scar, he's been fucking terrible, as many predicted.

Well fortunately he was a pro bowl alternate in 2017, so wrong.

On top of that, penalty yardage being that low on your list is asinine. Considering it puts you in horrible down and distance situations on a regular basis, it should probably be one of the top things you should be looking to minimize.
 
Well fortunately he was a pro bowl alternate in 2017, so wrong.

On top of that, penalty yardage being that low on your list is asinine. Considering it puts you in horrible down and distance situations on a regular basis, it should probably be one of the top things you should be looking to minimize.

....So does getting sacked....
 
Well fortunately he was a pro bowl alternate in 2017, so wrong.

On top of that, penalty yardage being that low on your list is asinine. Considering it puts you in horrible down and distance situations on a regular basis, it should probably be one of the top things you should be looking to minimize.

Oh, well, pardon me, a pro bowl fucking alternate 2 years ago. He immediately left the Patriots and began to suck.

If I'm forced to choose, I'm choosing the guy who is holding maybe once a game over the guy who is giving up QB hits/sacks like Nate Solder is. And I'm certainly not paying him 4 million and giving up a mid round pick to not upgrade the position.
 
Why do you keep citing last year? He's been horrible this season.

Because last year has a much larger sample size to project into this year.

He started last year terribly too allowing 6 sacks and 20 pressures over his first 8 and still is better than Greg Robinson at the end of the day.
 
Because last year has a much larger sample size to project into this year.

He started last year terribly too allowing 6 sacks and 20 pressures over his first 8 and still was better than Greg Robinson.

Yeah, there's a key word, "project". Projections don't mean much once the results come out.

I'd rather use his performance this year to project his performance the rest of this year.

Greg Robinson sucks too. Bringing him up doesn't do much for me. Greg Robinson is already on the roster and doesn't require picks and money to obtain.
 
"So far, through 7 weeks of the 2019 NFL season, Nate Solder has allowed 5 sacks and a whopping 26 pressures. That means that Nate Solder is letting his man get to the quarterback at an average around 4 times per game. To put this in perspective, Nate Solder allowed a total of 33 pressures through the entire 2018 season."

 
Because last year has a much larger sample size to project into this year.

He started last year terribly too allowing 6 sacks and 20 pressures over his first 8 and still is better than Greg Robinson at the end of the day.

Cool, must mean he has adjusted to New York's scheme and is rounding back into his NE form then!

"So far, through 7 weeks of the 2019 NFL season, Nate Solder has allowed 5 sacks and a whopping 26 pressures. That means that Nate Solder is letting his man get to the quarterback at an average around 4 times per game. To put this in perspective, Nate Solder allowed a total of 33 pressures through the entire 2018 season."


Oops, never mind.
 
Listen, if the cost were a 5th, I'd be willing to roll the dice on Solder. You pay him his $2.9m to close out the season, shake his hand and wish him well after the final game of the season.

But to give up a 2nd or a 3rd to get Solder for the final 9 (8 may be more realistic) games of the season? Knowing how poorly Solder has played this year? Knowing this team will more likely than not be 2-5 on Monday morning? That is wasteful spending.
 
Listen, if the cost were a 5th, I'd be willing to roll the dice on Solder. You pay him his $2.9m to close out the season, shake his hand and wish him well after the final game of the season.

But to give up a 2nd or a 3rd to get Solder for the final 9 (8 may be more realistic) games of the season? Knowing how poorly Solder has played this year? Knowing this team will more likely than not be 2-5 on Monday morning? That is wasteful spending.

A 5th is still way too much to give up. You're doing the Giants a favor by taking him on for the rest of the year.

I'd give them a conditional 7th round 2021 pick. Condition is that Solder starts more than 5 games.
 
Admittedly do not know anything about Vaitai other than he took over for at LT mid-season during their Super Bowl run after Jason Peters got hurt.
 

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