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Cleveland Guardians Offseason Discussion 2021-22

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sportscoach said:
OGonz is a heavy bust candidate so if we don't add him that is the reason why. Also we probably won't keep all those guys luckily... Mercado ends up being the candidate to keep in the OF since likely we have a bunch of lefties to be in the OF plus he is a solid defender. I have a hunch Chang is going to be legit in 22...
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On a team lacking impact OF bats I think you have to let OGonz have a chance to bust in the majors. For this team to make a major jump forward it needs to find some cheap bats so see if he can be that. Guys like Harold Ramirez can always be signed off the scrap heap.
 
CDAV45 said:
It will take more than 4 yrs won't it?
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Maybe not. With the other 2 years that takes him out 6 years. He can do better in 2 years if all goes well but he gives up the risk of injury or performance regression for a bit shorter deal. But at the end of the day those 6 years are going to get him well over $100 million. Hard to say that much money is ever a bad thing.
 
Interesting note in the Mark Polishuk chat tonight... Someone named "Cleveland Fan" (probably not ready/comfortable calling them the Guardians) had this question w/ Mark's response:

Cleveland Fan 8:14 do you think that a Jose Ramirez extension is realistic

Mark P 8:16 I would lean towards no, just because "the second extension" has so rarely been a tactic for Cleveland. Their strategy has always been to lock up star players on early-career extensions, but then to trade them or see them go in free agency rather than sign them to a pricier second contract.

It could be that they've focused on Ramirez as that special talent who they're willing to break the bank on, but I'll to have to see it to believe it, based on how the franchise has traditionally operated

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..yada yada.. what does he know..

More Jose stuff:

Robbie Baseball 8:29 Everyone on social media seems to be implying that Jose Ramirez will definitely be traded to Toronto (fingers crossed it happens). If that happens, do you think they’d add any other position players or just add SP/RP at that point?

Mark P 8:31 There have been Ramirez/Jays rumors for years, since Toronto fans and media tend to assume any Cleveland player is a trade target due to the Tribe's history with Shapiro and Atkins.
8:32 I tend to believe J-Ram isn't going to dealt for anything short of a massive offer, or an obvious overpay. Cleveland surely thinks they can contend next season if everyone is healthy, and they probably want a big splash in their first year as the Guardians.

Looks like Mark P is of the opinion.. no extension.. no trade...
 
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CalBuckeyeRob said:
On a team lacking impact OF bats I think you have to let OGonz have a chance to bust in the majors. For this team to make a major jump forward it needs to find some cheap bats so see if he can be that. Guys like Harold Ramirez can always be signed off the scrap heap.
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The odds of Oscar being a "guy like Harold Ramirez" himself is quite high.

Would rather keep the 40 man spot for a better rule 5 eligible guy they may be worried about or a free agent/trade acquisition.
 
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