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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%

  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
Dr No said:
He'd be rusty. You certainly wouldn't want to risk injury by coming back too soon. There would be some concern regarding chemistry. But he'd be a nice extra weapon to have in the arsenal.
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Nice opportunity to bring him off the bench as a sparkplug and see how it goes for informing offseason decision making. He would be going against bench players so he doesn't need to press.
 
MirORich said:

This is still in the realm of speculation and probably won't happen, but still nice to see us talking about if a player could return in time for THE PLAYOFFS
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I mentioned this weeks ago. That injury typically doesn’t keep players out all year. He had the surgery which extends it but this happened way early in the season. He has a lot of recovery time.
 
Heat Check said:
Exactly.

Sexton isn't going to sacrifice a single dollar. Of course he's not going to come out and say it – he doesn't have to. It's gonna be the old "Of course I'd like to stay here, but in the end, it's a business... so we'll see." That's NBA code for "Money talks, MF".

It's impossible to overstate the importance of the 2nd contract for a guy like Sexton. He's not a sweet-shooting, crafty big man who can make money in the NBA until he's 37. Jitterbug shooting guards relying on their quickness tend to have a pretty short shelf life in the League.
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but who's paying the premium. Ultimately you need the market. Spurs, Magic and Pistons are the most likely teams with money to spend.

Spurs and Magic make no sense given how much money they have tied to G's already.
Pistons, maybe? Detroit might have roughly 20.6m to offer if they used ALL of their cap space on an offer to Collin.

This is the other side of operating as a business.
 
I think I posted this over a year ago when the long term decision making process regarding Sexton was being discussed, but here it is again. Let Colin and his agents shop around and see what offers are out there. Then don't just match the best offer, but beat it by a comfortable margin just to show goodwill. Everybody should be happy that way.
 
buzzdog said:
I think I posted this over a year ago when the long term decision making process regarding Sexton was being discussed, but here it is again. Let Colin and his agents shop around and see what offers are out there. Then don't just match the best offer, but beat it by a comfortable margin just to show goodwill. Everybody should be happy that way.
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That doesn’t make any sense
 
This board spends far too much energy worrying about what guys are going to get paid, especially when our ownership has always been happy to open the wallet.

Also, this thread is particularly toxic at times, what with how many jacka-- how many posters come in here to lecture the universe about what Collin wants and what Collin would accept and what Collin deserves. It's like listening to Greta Thunburg scream at me for 700+ pages. She might even be right, but listening to her shout the same shit over and over again makes me wanna drive my car into a fucking wall.

... idk, I would have posted a gif in here from player haters ball long ago, but I can't be arsed to figure out how to embed from the phone.

Anyway, nevermind, please carry on.
 
Regrding Sexton possibly trying to return this season: the guy obviously (and understandably) wants to salvage some of his value going into restricted free agency, but just plugging him back in the lineup for the playoffs after the team has been gelling without him all season would not be wise.

There would be a huge incentive for Sexton to try to play hero ball and get some limelight on him to make some club give him a sizable offer sheet. I don't think this team needs anything like that in a critical time of the season. It's just a distraction, and I'm pretty sure the FO and coaching staff know it.
 
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the thought that he'd need added incentive to play his game style..
 
A healthy Sexton is exactly what this team needs. Might not have much left from Garland if he breaks his back carrying his current workload. These stories about key guys making it back in time from month long injuries within a season usually never come to fruition.
 
Huge if true - a scoring 6th man at the PG/SG position is exactly what this team needs on paper.

Additionally, if Sexton comes back from injury just at the end of the season (or in the postseason) - it will be much more natural/defensible for the coaching staff to slide him in as a super-sub (rather than immediately placing him in the starting lineup). Since that is where he would work best for the team long term as well -- it would really be a golden opportunity to test that scenario from everybody's perspective.
 
Heat Check said:
Sexton's main goal is to show the league that he's worth a big offer sheet.

You don't do that as a 6th option, a roleplayer off the bench.
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He would be taking a huge personal risk doing so with possible re-injury and conditioning issues that will potentially impact his performance after being out for so long.

I’m not sure him wanting to get paid is a feeling unique to Sexton either. He didn’t come to terms on a contract because we have smart management in place who didn’t want to overpay. If Kevin Love, a HOF candidate, can be convinced to come off the bench and thrive in that role then I’m sure Sexton can be even if temporarily in this hypothetical scenario that won’t happen lol. Assuming otherwise is unnecessarily weird.
 
Part of Colins value, to us and to other teams, is his impact on team culture.. I think that is attractive to teams that understand what that means.. Which is why he could be part of the Spurs Murray discussion. If you are rebuilding he is not a bad choice to set the tone.. Honestly, the Knicks could use a guy like that..

I don't think we sell him cheap.. but if he could bring a first from another team, then we could package it with Rubio, Osman and one of our own to the spurs for Murray..

If we can't get that kind of value, then we hang on to him and see what happens.. He is super competitive and plays with a chip on his shoulder.. I think he would be jazzed to come off the bench post season and kill it. Not so much for a contract, but just to say fuck you to the league ..
 
Heat Check said:
Sexton's main goal is to show the league that he's worth a big offer sheet.

You don't do that as a 6th option, a roleplayer off the bench.
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You can:

Eric Gordon signed a 4-year $52M contract in 2016 as a 6th man (won 6th man of the year in his first year). Then signed another 4-year $75M contract in 2020 primarily as a 6th man.

Enes Kanter Freedom signed a 4-year $70M contract in 2015 with the intention of being a pure 6th man -- and started 1 game in the upcoming year.

Manu Ginobili made well over $100M (10-20 years ago) -- while playing as a 6th man in more than 80% of his games.

Jordan Clarkson just signed 4-years $52M as a 6th man.
 
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