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Here is an interesting list of supposed hard choices. For Guardians, they picked Cantillo as an injury issues decision. Thought it would be someone like Hankins. Pitt has TT listed.

 
Here is an interesting list of supposed hard choices. For Guardians, they picked Cantillo as an injury issues decision. Thought it would be someone like Hankins. Pitt has TT listed.

While the Rule 5 "machinations" have many twists and turns.. I doubt it's Cantillo who is exposed.. The troubling decision comes down to which current 40 man roster guys* are exposed?:

* Foregone conclusion, Anthony Gose will be exposed

Wil Benson
Xzavion Curry
Hunter Gaddis
Bryan Lavastida
Luke Maile
Richie Palacios

All of them? In addition to Martinez and Hankins, is Cantillo, Herrin and Mikolajchak plus one or two more kept? someone from this six kept?

Edit: Adding Peyton Battenfield and Kirk McCarty to the keepers?

We'll see...
 
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While the Rule 5 "machinations" have many twists and turns.. I doubt it's Cantillo who is exposed.. The troubling decision comes down to which current 40 man roster guys* are exposed?:

* Foregone conclusion, Anthony Gose will be exposed

Wil Benson
Xzavion Curry
Hunter Gaddis
Bryan Lavastida
Luke Maile
Richie Palacios

All of them? In addition to Martinez and Hankins, is Cantillo, Herrin and Mikolajchak plus one or two more kept? someone from this six kept?

Edit: Adding Peyton Battenfield and Kirk McCarty to the keepers?

We'll see...

You mean Gose will be DFA'd while Maile is likely to as well (both though will have options to come back to the organization in 23. Gose is out until 24, so I hope Cleveland at least keeps him and gives him a chance to get healthy again).

If Lavastida is cut or DFA'D I'd bet his MLB career as a catcher is over... While Palacios and Curry are too good of prospects to have them on the bubble...

We will see, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a minor trade where we swap Palacios out for a lotto prospect...
 
So, today is roster day ...

Just killing time and a quick peak at next year and it starts a 2 year run of pitchers-- Espino, Allen, Burns, Hankins (repeat) are the only ones I see as almost locks for now and then a bunch of questions (relievers with avg FBs) Hickman, Cade Smith, Villalobos Big names who haven't done much -- Torres (repeat), Wolf, Rodriquez (repeat), Pestrano, Durango Burgess, Naranjo, Bartlett, Collado

Next year (2023) should be a quiet year because of who is on their heels for 2024 - Williams, Bibee, Nikhazy, Webb, Boone, Johnson, Stanley, Sharpe..... (all the 2021 pitchers) plus Halpin, Tolentino, Kokx and maybe Greene. And, 2024 could have been even bigger if it wasn't for where COVID kicked in on International players with no signing date in 2020 season (which would have made 2024 the fifth season for 18 & under if July 2020 signings happened including Geano, Alduey and our two younger catchers Lopez & Mejias).
 
What did we learn yesterday about Rule 5. First, there are more top-30 prospects available then in recent history ... per MLB...
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This year, with 76 of 176 prospects ranked on organizational Top 30 lists added to 40-man rosters, the percentage dipped to 43.2 percent, the lowest mark in the past eight years.
2022: 76 of 176 (43.2 percent)
2021: 80 of 169 (47.3 percent)
2020: 86 of 174 (49.4 percent)
2019: 87 of 149 (58.3 percent)
2018: 71 of 149 (47.6 percent)
2017: 85 of 153 (55.6 percent)
2016: 84 of 144 (58.0 percent)
2015: 75 of 156 (48.0 percent)
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I think it is always a crap shoot on who gets selected as different GMs are looking for different qualities and have different needs (and each scouting report/ranking is different). Yet, in general, pitching is always the key to Rule 5 (72.5% of time selected) and teams want to stash them in the back-end of the pen. So, if we were to lose anyone it is probably Battenfield or Hankins (more upside but clearly a grab and stash which is limited opportunities in this market).

Some of the best of the rest (leans to position players for a reason -- and a lot of high ranked Pitchers were left unprotected were at lower A level -- but Cleveland did reverse protected a hitter over a pitcher) -- Just 7 teams that had articles on who didn't get selected ... do more later

Mets - Jake Mangum - (best defensive outfielder that hit 300+ BA in AA/AAA last year

Yankees - Andres Chapparo -- hit .290 with 22 HRs in AA and a couple catchers

Atlanta - Victor Vodnick (MLB Pipe - #9/19th FG) - Has the stuff but injury prone (12.2 K per 9 last year)

Tampa -Heriberto Hernandez - (19 MLB/ 8 FG) -- 24 HR in High A ball

Dodgers -- Ramos (8th in both MLB/FG) - Hit 25 HRs last year in A/A+ ball
-- Duran (18th/19th prospect in FG/MLB) - but in A+ pitching.

Phillies - Erik Miller (7th/9th prospect in FG/MLB) - only 60 innings last 2 years (did well in AA ball this year but struggled in AAA) but is a lefty who tops at 97

Pittsburgh -- Kind of surprised that a website said Sabol (C/OF) is most likely to be lost due to hitting in AAA for .280+ average but can be select due to his versalility even if he is not highly ranked. Gorski is the next on the list (hit 22 HR in A+/AA and ranked in the 20s by MLB). Also TT and Flowers are left unprotected after a good year in AA.
 
SC -- taking your McCarty question over here as I just thought the reason for his release. IF he wanted back and Cleveland did not put him on the 38-man AAA roster when he was designated then he could have been selected in December with no choice on where he goes. Assume FO/Agent figured out a few teams who would select him and thus he choose to be a FA and go to the team of his choice. I guess technically if signs back here after Rule 5, no one can select him then (so possibility). I assume Gose may not choose his release as no one will select him being 32 already and out on TJS and then he gets to rehab w Cleveland with option to be a FA after 2023.

Just a quick look at 38 Rule 5 eligibles not on 40 (using RR)
C - (3) +(2?) - Plaz, Planchart, Ramirez, Amditis? and Rodriquez?
1B- (2) - Pries, Sanquintin
2B-(1?) - Bracho
3B-(4)+(1?) - Frias, Rodriquez, Delgado, Fry, Scheeman(?)
SS - All are rostered
OF - (4)+(1?) Planez, J Rodriguez, Idrogo, Escabado, Holland(?)
So (13) + (5?) so far but not at our strength yet
SP (7) - Scott, Royalty, Hankins, Torres, S McCarthy, Sabrowski, Vasquez
RP (17) - Miko, Misiaszek, Enright, Kelly, Broom, Pinto, Lingos, Daniels, Marman, Ponticelli, Benton, Jones, Hart, Labaut, Munoz, Morillo, Jerez

Sure RR left off a few that Cleveland likes and thus not on this list (but will look more tomorrow and can put ? on pitchers as well). But, you get the point of this, the numbers adds up to 37+5? (more than 38) so others will be left off and thus they did not want to add K McCarty to this list over a guy who can finally break out like Bracho (slim chance).
 
SC -- taking your McCarty question over here as I just thought the reason for his release. IF he wanted back and Cleveland did not put him on the 38-man AAA roster when he was designated then he could have been selected in December with no choice on where he goes. Assume FO/Agent figured out a few teams who would select him and thus he choose to be a FA and go to the team of his choice. I guess technically if signs back here after Rule 5, no one can select him then (so possibility). I assume Gose may not choose his release as no one will select him being 32 already and out on TJS and then he gets to rehab w Cleveland with option to be a FA after 2023.

Just a quick look at 38 Rule 5 eligibles not on 40 (using RR)
C - (3) +(2?) - Plaz, Planchart, Ramirez, Amditis? and Rodriquez?
1B- (2) - Pries, Sanquintin
2B-(1?) - Bracho
3B-(4)+(1?) - Frias, Rodriquez, Delgado, Fry, Scheeman(?)
SS - All are rostered
OF - (4)+(1?) Planez, J Rodriguez, Idrogo, Escabado, Holland(?)
So (13) + (5?) so far but not at our strength yet
SP (7) - Scott, Royalty, Hankins, Torres, S McCarthy, Sabrowski, Vasquez
RP (17) - Miko, Misiaszek, Enright, Kelly, Broom, Pinto, Lingos, Daniels, Marman, Ponticelli, Benton, Jones, Hart, Labaut, Munoz, Morillo, Jerez

Sure RR left off a few that Cleveland likes and thus not on this list (but will look more tomorrow and can put ? on pitchers as well). But, you get the point of this, the numbers adds up to 37+5? (more than 38) so others will be left off and thus they did not want to add K McCarty to this list over a guy who can finally break out like Bracho (slim chance).

Bracho can be allowed to go... I don't think he will make anything of his talent.

Honestly I feel like McCarty got the best out of this deal by being allowed to become a free agent. He can see the interests and spots around the league. If he doesn't find anything good, he's likely got a home in Columbus in a sense with Cleveland listening to offers for him to get a big league shot.

Do you have a list of everyone who is eligible for the minor league Rule 5? It's not a big deal since I really only see a few names, making the bigs at some point (aka Miko, Fry, Pries) outside of that I don't see a ton of names, we have to hold onto like we had last season...

Also I wouldn't be surprised to see some names cut (Frias, Bracho etc) since we keep adding a ton of international hitting talents, plus we have a ton of those types from the bigs down...
 
Bracho can be allowed to go... I don't think he will make anything of his talent.

Honestly I feel like McCarty got the best out of this deal by being allowed to become a free agent. He can see the interests and spots around the league. If he doesn't find anything good, he's likely got a home in Columbus in a sense with Cleveland listening to offers for him to get a big league shot.

Do you have a list of everyone who is eligible for the minor league Rule 5? It's not a big deal since I really only see a few names, making the bigs at some point (aka Miko, Fry, Pries) outside of that I don't see a ton of names, we have to hold onto like we had last season...

Also I wouldn't be surprised to see some names cut (Frias, Bracho etc) since we keep adding a ton of international hitting talents, plus we have a ton of those types from the bigs down...

Sorry couldn't find a nice clean list that CleGuardPro usually puts out. But, here is a spreadsheet of 71 possible guys if you hit the Rule 5 tab

Usually we don't lose anyone of significance in this section of the draft, even last year (Clemmer in round 4). And, we usually select 1-3 players here (thus keep a few spots open).

However, the McCarty move does show that the Guardians had to use McCarty and Pilk a lot this year as Meyers didn't work out to fill that near-mlb hole (plus more DHs due to scheduling/weather). With Curry, Gaddis, Pilk, Morris, Miko, Misa and Herrin (possibly Battenfield if not selected) all filling that Meyers hole filler this year, they obvious told McCarty there are x other plans before him thus best to look elsewhere as there was obvious room to keep him from AAA Rule 5 if the so desired and McCarty didn't refuse assignment (being a 3 time designation).
 
For those interested, I am assuming that one of our pitchers (Battenfield, Hankins, Miko or Misa) are the only possible selection this year. As I said, hitters are the most notable players available (as GMs know pitchers are the most likely selection). Yet, we chose Brito over a Battenfield, so they know more than me, obviously.

Thus, to avoid one of our pitchers being selected, there needs to be other more enticing pitchers. There are number of them like Dodgers Duran or Padres' Iriarte but they are in A ball and not likely to be selected and thus unprotected. Here is a list of AA/AAA type pitchers that are similar to ours. Yet, as each GM looks for different types of selections, it is hard to say that Battenfield won't be picked as he is probably 4-8th of the most productive AAA pitcher left unprotected. Sorry for cut and past approach, just looking for what people are saying.
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Cleveland – Per SI, “Battenfield throws four pitches including a fastball that has good vertical movement that in 2021 sat 92-94 but was sitting at 90-93 in 2022. In 2021 his fastball was touching 97 mph but was topping out around 94-95 this year. His best secondary pitch is a cutter that grades above average. Battenfield also throws a curveball and changeup that are average pitches.

His command-and-control grade out above average as he spots his pitches especially his fastball where he wants in the zone. However, he saw his BB/9 inning rate jump from 1.66 in 2021 to 3.34 this season. Battenfield utilizes all of his pitches well and they work well together keeping hitters guessing and off balance.”

https://www.si.com/mlb/guardians/prospects/cleveland-guardians-2022-mlb-rule-5-draft-preview

Boston – Per Masslive, “Ward is the most notable omission. The 2018 fifth-round draft pick out of Central Florida emerged as one of top pitching prospects in the Red Sox organization before undergoing Tommy John surgery in 2021. He posted a 2.14 ERA in 25 starts (13 at Greenville and 12 at Salem) in 2019. He returned during the 2022 season and posted a 2.43 ERA (33 ⅓ innings, nine earned runs) in seven starts for Portland. He then made four appearances (three starts) in the Arizona Fall League, recording a 2.84 ERA (12 ⅔ innings, four runs).

Politi along with Ward is a strong candidate to be selected in the Rule 5 Draft. The 26-year-old righty recorded a 2.34 ERA and 0.97 WHIP in 48 relief outings and two starts (69 ⅓ innings) between Portland and Worcester in 2022. He held opponents to a .186 batting average. He struck out 83 and walked 22. Politi’s fastball was in the 94-97 mph range this past season. He has touched 98 mph. He also throws a cutter and curveball.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/202...d-unprotected-for-decembers-rule-5-draft.html

Oakland - “Peluse’s 95-98 mph fastball is accompanied by a strong slider that has flashed plus at times and a solid changeup that continues to improve, giving him a good three-pitch mix to work with. Command is also a strength, evidenced by his low walk numbers that date back to his college days at Wake Forest.MLB.com Top Prospects He struggled though in AA giving up 133 hits in 118 innings as a starter. Did a lot better in Arizona.


TJ SIkkema – “The fastball is where the variations in arm slot come into play the most, will work in 88-92 mph range with plus arm side life from lower 3/4 slot, will raise up to overhand slot at times and can work in more 92-95 mph range, does a nice job mixing and matching and keeping hitters off balance as a result, variations should play both in starting and bullpen role.” – Mike Kinsela He has different arm angles and his splits this year makes him LOOGY potential .101/.374 (BA/OPS). But more importantly, Royals who are one of team primed to pick, decided to leave him off versus using room to protect this grade of prospect.

Per MLB.Com (toughest decision article -- the pitchers left unprotected)

Braves: Indigo Diaz, RHP (No. 28)
After a breakout in 2021 that saw him reach Double-A and absolutely dominate as a short reliever, Diaz looked like a sure-fire roster add following this season. He returned to Mississippi, and while he still missed bats (11.4 K/9), his command went south (5.6 BB/9). He was still tough to hit (.167 BAA), but the lack of strike-throwing could limit him from pitching in high-leverage situations, though the Braves know full well that power-armed relievers with upper-level success are often Rule 5 targets.

Phillies: McKinley Moore, RHP (No. 24)
Moore is big (6-foot-6) and throws really hard (up to 98 mph) with a solid slider that misses bats (12.9 K/9 in 2022, in line with his career rate). He doesn’t always know where it’s going (4.7 BB/9 last season) and his command in the strike zone has led him to be more hittable than he should be at times. Could he figure things out and help a big league bullpen in 2023? Stuff-wise, sure, and that’s the question the Phillies have to answer in making a roster decision here.

Pirates: Tahnaj Thomas, RHP (No. 28)
A move to the bullpen in 2022 led to a lot more success for Thomas, as he finished his first year in Double-A with a 3.02 ERA and 9.2 K/9, and he featured a live fastball that has touched triple-digits in the past. He really struggled with the strike zone in the AFL, however, though he was still consistently in the 95-97 mph range, and he needs to refine his secondary stuff.

D-backs: Conor Grammes, RHP (No. 28)
Grammes underwent Tommy John surgery in July 2021, returned this season and struck out 33 of the 89 High-A batters he faced on the strength of his mid-90s fastball and two above-average breaking pitches. He also walked 13 and allowed 17 earned runs in his 18 innings with Hillsboro. Any results are typically gravy in a year back from TJ, but a little tighter command would have helped Grammes’ case significantly. With his premium stuff, he’d be a perfect Rule 5 pick for a club looking to bulk up its bullpen, and that might be his saving grace.

Padres: Jairo Iriarte, RHP (No. 10)
Top 10 prospects typically go protected from the Rule 5 Draft, but Iriarte is a bit of a different case. For starters, he has no experience above Single-A ball, making a jump to the Majors an extreme question mark. He also didn’t exactly dominate even that level with a 5.12 ERA, 1.37 WHIP and 109 strikeouts in 91 1/3 innings at Lake Elsinore. The 20-year-old right-hander’s above-average fastball and plus changeup could be worth a Rule 5 look, but the whole package might be too much of a long-term project for the Padres to use on a 40-man spot right now.

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Others -- Atlanta Victor Vodnik – Dominated in 7 games in AA (18k per 9 but more pedestrian in AAA). Per FG – “Vodnik remains a mid-90s relief prospect with a good changeup. He was sitting 94-96 mph during the 2021 regular season and was often sustaining 95-97 (mostly 97s) during the 2021 Fall League, though his arm strength has been down about a tick so far this season. His slider’s velocity was greater (as hard as 90-91) during that Fall League stint than during the 2021 regular season (per our sourced pitch data, it sat 83) and that has continued to some degree this year, as Vodnik’s slider has averaged 86 mph, though it remains a distant third pitch. His fastball’s cut and carry at the top of the zone makes it a bat-missing weapon up there and should spearhead a consistent on-roster middle relief profile.”

Boston- Wikelman Gonzalez – Per FG (#4 prospect) and “Gonzalez zoomed up this list in July 2021 with an outstanding showing in the Florida Complex League that left scouts buzzing about both the depth and maturity of his arsenal. While he’s a bit on the small side, Gonzalez is an electric athlete with a smooth delivery and an exceptionally quick arm that produces 93-95 mph fastballs that touch 98, with scouts projecting for even more as his frame continues to fill out. “ But is only at A+ ball (but did well)

Detroit – Austin Bergner – had a good AA season with .195 BA and struggled a bit in AAA though. Per MLB - Bergner has a nice, easy delivery out of his 6-foot-5 frame. He pitches off a fastball that approaches the mid-90s. As a reliever, he could pair that with a fading changeup and mix in a slow curveball.

Detroit – Elvis Alvarado – Moved up through 3 level to AA. Per MLB, “Alvarado is a hard-thrower of the type that has become a rarity in the Tigers system these days. He can fire the fastball in at 96-97 mph, touching 99, with more sink than a traditional four-seamer, and he isn’t afraid of sticking with the heater when he’s locating it, which is fairly often. The power doesn’t stop there either. He’ll mix in a low-90s slider -- yes, low-90s -- but the velocity is the only thing that pops on the breaker.”

Dodgers – Carlos Duran – Like many pitchers with great stuff, the have not made it out of A+. Per MLB – “Right-handers can't seem to pick up Duran's slider, which parks in the mid-80s and features horizontal sweep as well as two-plane break. He can run a four-seam fastball up to 98 mph but it lacks life and gets hit when he doesn't command it, so he's more effective with a two-seam sinker that sits at 92-95.”

Twins – Steven Cruz – He stuggled a bit at AA but had his moments too. Per MLB – “The 6-foot-7 Cruz is all about power. The right-hander throws his fastball in the 95-101 mph range and it’s a pitch that does have some riding life to it. He backs up the elite heater with a hard slider, thrown around 89 mph, a potential out pitch that can miss a lot of bats.”

Seattle – Kuhn – Had a .203 BAA in AA this year but 2:1 S:W ratio. Per MLB – “Kuhn is a come-right-after-you, pure power two-pitch type of right-hander. He’s been up to 99 mph with his fastball this year, typically sitting in the 95-96 mph range, and it has good run and sink on it, coming from his strong, stocky frame. He complements it with a hard, short slider, typically in the upper-80s, that flashes above average and can be a true out pitch. “
 
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Here is some MLBTR write-up of unprotected players ... Cleveland lands 2

Ethan Hankins, CLE (22): Despite reaching Rule 5 eligibility, Hankins has barely pitched professionally. He’s totaled just 64 career innings across five seasons. He returned from Tommy John surgery at the end of 2022. At times, he has flashed multiple plus pitches. Hankins would rate as an extreme selection – he has yet to appear in High-A. Orgs lacking in both Major League and prospect talent – like the Nationals – might take an interest.

--- I will tell you that Nationals picking first will take someone for the pen this year or BPA not Ethan and their roster is at 39 kind of full so will they do a 2nd ... probably not.

Micah Pries, CLE (24): Although he’s flown well-below the radar, Pries has done nothing but hit since his debut in 2021. A 2019 draftee, he missed that season due to a pre-draft hamstring injury. COVID restrictions cost him his 2020 campaign. Pries seems unlikely to be selected on so short a track record and modest scouting grades. In 504 Double-A plate appearances, he batted .266/.341/.473 with 18 home runs and 20 stolen bases. If there are underlying metrics supporting his success (I have no such info on him), a data-savvy team might give him a try.

-- There are a few 1st basemen who are good in this draft who are ranked on their team. 1B is usually not taken as a stash (unless they tag him for OF) as teams need the infield utility role filled first and foremost.
 
Here is some MLBTR write-up of unprotected players ... Cleveland lands 2

Ethan Hankins, CLE (22): Despite reaching Rule 5 eligibility, Hankins has barely pitched professionally. He’s totaled just 64 career innings across five seasons. He returned from Tommy John surgery at the end of 2022. At times, he has flashed multiple plus pitches. Hankins would rate as an extreme selection – he has yet to appear in High-A. Orgs lacking in both Major League and prospect talent – like the Nationals – might take an interest.

--- I will tell you that Nationals picking first will take someone for the pen this year or BPA not Ethan and their roster is at 39 kind of full so will they do a 2nd ... probably not.

Micah Pries, CLE (24): Although he’s flown well-below the radar, Pries has done nothing but hit since his debut in 2021. A 2019 draftee, he missed that season due to a pre-draft hamstring injury. COVID restrictions cost him his 2020 campaign. Pries seems unlikely to be selected on so short a track record and modest scouting grades. In 504 Double-A plate appearances, he batted .266/.341/.473 with 18 home runs and 20 stolen bases. If there are underlying metrics supporting his success (I have no such info on him), a data-savvy team might give him a try.

-- There are a few 1st basemen who are good in this draft who are ranked on their team. 1B is usually not taken as a stash (unless they tag him for OF) as teams need the infield utility role filled first and foremost.

Hankins feels like the perfect gamble for the right team, Battenfield too perhaps. Updated prediction, we lose at least one of these guys, but maybe they come back. If we lose a position player I'd guess GRod or David Fry. Those would be rather surprising selections.
 
Hankins feels like the perfect gamble for the right team, Battenfield too perhaps. Updated prediction, we lose at least one of these guys, but maybe they come back. If we lose a position player I'd guess GRod or David Fry. Those would be rather surprising selections.

I would say Reds or Rockies for Hankins as they both could stash 2 --- 1 position in 1st round and go pitching as a stash and grab 2nd round as there will only be 6-9 picks in 1st round.
 
For those of us Rule 5 Geeks ... here is my in-depth (2 part) draft needs and possible selection odds -- types (focusing on first 16 teams) -- post non-tender cuts (used RR for counts).

Quick Summary -- The only for sure picks are Reds (future relievers, OF, C) and Rockies (pitching in general, but for now inning eater,C) who may double dip (esp Reds). Nationals are likely (depth pitching or depth MIF/OF) but then odds fall off after that.

Likely (4) – Nationals (80%+), As (70% as it is what they do w back-end pen RP, OF), Tigers (70% - BPA), Royals (60% - best pitcher)

Possible (2) – Orioles (habit 50%), Brewers (space and Pen needs – 30%), Arizona (30% - back-end pen needs)

Teams with < 10% of selecting are:

FA bound $$$ -- (5) Red Sox, White Sox, Giants, Angels, Rangers

Roster Crunch – (3) Pirates, Marlins, Twins

Playoff teams – Guardians are most (and only) likely to select IMO (20—30% - catching help if avail).
 
Part II (only for those that want to geek out and see how the sausage is made and why this will be a quite per se Rule 5 draft)

1. Nationals (55-107) - They are sitting with 38 players. They can cut a Garrett or Machado (RPs) to get another position but have cut down a lot already. So, they may take 1 or 2 in Rule 5 and 1 or 2 in FA. With Gore, Cavalli and Gray, they have a good top 3 but depth is a bit lacking so maybe a Battenfield depth guy. And, I am a bit shocked that they left Milas a C unprotected (would have been 4th) but is ranked 16th by FG and 30 by MLB. He only made it to AA and struggled with bat but hit .305 2HR in AZL. He is known for blocking and framing and 31% throwout rate in minors combined.


2. Athletics (60-102) – 37 players with guys like Clement that can create more room. Question is how many 40 man spots do they need for next round of trades of Murphy and Laureano? Something maybe up as they left off a few SS in mid-teen rankings and Peluse 95-98 mph starter who made it up for coffee in AAA (24th ranked) off the Rule 5 protection (with Clement blocking a spot?). Did they leave these guys exposed just to take someone else?


3. Pirates (62-100) - 40 players (roster is full) – Surprised at Heineman was cut not because he is good but leaves just Sanchez a waiver pick up at season end as the only other catcher till Davis. Doubt they take anyone as they had time to cut fluff earlier and left a lot of their players unprotected.

4. Reds (62-100) – 38 players with one or two more they can cut. They need RP and OF … so may take 2 in Rule 5. With Greene. Lodolo and Williamson, they have a strong top 3 SP and a lot of depth at AA/AAA – so do they want a Rule 5 SP or RP? RPers (not a Battenfield/Hankins type)


5. Royals (65-97) – 40 players and wanting Greinke back. I thought that they would take a player in Rule 5, but if you look at RP staff their bottom 3 (2 – Lovelady and Hernandez have 0 options – of which Hernandez could be cut and other is Misiewicz just passed the non-tender deadline) So do they cut someone now for a pitcher that may not be hidden? I thought it was guaranteed at first, but not now. And, they left Siekema off – who hasn’t pitched a lot due to injury but $2 million signee who did well in A+ before struggling in AA this year. He will compete with Hankins for that comp 1st round pick grab and stash (but with who?)


6. Tigers (66-96) -- 38 players and have room to add. But, as I said before with 4 pitchers out with 3 TJS – Guenther, Mize and Skubal and Funkhouser – shoulder surgery, they already got 22 pitchers on 40 and no real catcher Haase and Rodgers. Plus, the front end of pen, isn’t terrible to cut/option for R5. Little biased but I would look for middle inf to compete with Short (another old R5) for utility role. And, they left off Bergner who struggle in AAA but had good AA numbers and is mid-90 mph FB 4 pitch mix starter, strange.

7. Rangers (68-94) – 39 players but do they seem like a team that wants to fill holes to compete with their aggressive FA last year and Perez this year and more FA this year to go? They have plenty of starters coming up. Relievers are a bit lacking. But, they have Rodriquez to compete with Alexy (who struggled last year) for last spot in pen – plus starters can convert to RP too to help out like our Pilk). Plus, they left off a mid-90 (98T) LHP Kelly who made it up to AA for a handful of games (13th MLB ranked). So why are teams exposing these guys to just take our Hankins? Ain’t happening (other than Reds/Rockies).


8. Rockies (68-94) – 39 players with 2 spots in the pen kind of open. They do have 3 relievers in AAA (30ish ranked FG prospects) that will compete. Yet, they are light on upper level starting pitching (Lambert is main AAA guy). A Battenfield type hidden as 8th long-man role/emergency starter could be a benefit. Yet, with 2 starters and 1 reliever currently sideline by injury (different tendon, shoulder, knee surgeries), this need may also go away if these pitchers come back healthy in ST.


9. Marlins (69-93) – 39 players but will it be filled in FA as they left a lot of talent off roster and picked up Tampa guys. They need a depth starter if Sanchez isn’t ready in ST and Meyer out with TJS. Also as they have 5 AAA relievers rostered (3 just added now), they shouldn’t take someone to hide in their system.


10. Angels (73-89) – They are at 40 and want to keep Ohtani. So, any created room is for FA to improve team. Plus, 4 rostered (3 FG ranked) AAA relievers make hiding one more hard.

11. D-backs (74-88) – They are at 39 players. They could create more room to pick a guy as they have 6 rostered AAA relievers (inc Vargas). But as they have a bunch of highly ranked starters about to break through, a Hankins/Battenfield starter isn’t a high priority. They could take one but if they were it would be a potential closer back end type and why they went with Vargas. So, either FA or Rule 5 flame thrower with last slot? I think FA as the left 3 good players unprotected (Patino A+ OF and a AAA 1B/OF who hit .284 and 16 HR in 88 games – Canzone but 75k/331AB – a lot of these high K guys out there)

12. Cubs (74-88) – 37 players but will be active in FA for at least a catcher DH guys for Reyes and Contreras and think they want Smyly back. They could hide someone in the backend but they are doing a quicker rebuild and have Leeper in AAA who can compete as well for last pen spot.

13. Twins (78-84) – 40 players and decent pen anyways

14. Red Sox (78-84) – 38 players but want Bogarts back and sign Devers in tandem to commit long-term on left side. They do have room in front-end of pen to hide guys but they also have 2 AAA relievers that are ranked to compete for those spots in a playoff potential run – that is their goal not finding another Whitlock as they do have a bunch of AAA starters coming up. They also left off a few good pitchers in Ward and Gonzalez for a reason (find FA instead).

15. White Sox (81-81) – 35 players but I don’t see them trying to hide someone in their pen. They also left off Sanchez MIF who hit .280 (3 HR) in AAA.

16. Giants (81-81) – 37 players but also want to compete and sign few more FA and have 2 top-15 FG relievers in AAA ready to fill pen needs.


17. Orioles (83-79) – 38 players. I did not think they would have room for Rule 5 but they also want to start to compete. With other Rule 5 success, they will probably take 1 but hard to make it for a full year. They have room in back of pen (need help in middle) but have few ranked AAA relievers (but 35+ range) and bunch of AA starters who won’t have room in MLB that can be quickly reverted.

18. Brewers (86-76) – 36 players, need RP help, not much in AAA (Mejia still there), but will they look to FA vs Rule 5 to solve issues and compete! Again, hard to solve these issues in Rule 5 in this section of draft (after the top few) and compete. But, it is possible. They though left off Castaneda (40 FV on MLB) who pitched well in AA as a starter and got coffee at AAA. They also left off Valerio a higher ranked SS AA prospect who struggled this year.

Playoff teams – Cleveland and Padres are most likely team to take gamble? Mets and Padres have most room but spend the most. And, Padres exposed some good A/A+ level pitchers (Vale and Iriarte) in depleted system if they were not focused on building their pen from FA. They also left off a guy named Waldron (ranked 29 pipeline) who speed through their system and has upside as a middle-backend starter due to a new knuckleball. If we claim him, we clean up on that Clevinger trade.

And, there will be a lot of these deferred claimed gambits as even Yankees and Toronto will sign FA then defer guys.

40 – Tampa

39 – Toronto, Yankees, Cle

38 – Atlanta (could use pen help but deep in starting AAA depth too and left Vodnick off who is one of those probably picks)

37 – Seattle (but good pen), PHI (2 Top-15 relievers in AAA), STL (need catcher, decent pen and 2-top 20 relievers per FG in AAA)

36 – Houston , LAD,

33 – Mets (but $$$$ to spend on pen not Rule 5 and 2 top 15 FG relievers in AAA ), Padres (but 4 roster AAA pitchers )
 

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