2021 MLB Playoffs

[CDAV45]

God damnit, going forward can we throw a shits and giggles clause into these deadline deals that say in the off chance if you win the World Series with him in your lineup we also get a PTBNL?

What! You don't like the Panda?

Edited to say that I'm joking so nobody gets their panties in a bunch. Dumping Eddie's contract was the right move and had he not been hurt then they may have gotten a prospect for him, but that just wasn't the case.

 

[Criznit]

What! You don't like the Panda?

Edited to say that I'm joking so nobody gets their panties in a bunch. Dumping Eddie's contract was the right move and had he not been hurt then they may have gotten a prospect for him, but that just wasn't the case.

What makes it "sting" is he was barely moveable at the deadline (as evidenced by the "return") only to turn into an All-Star.

It's sour grapes. That's all.

We all know if he had played for us like he did after we moved him, we'd probably have had our own playoff run OR actually got something in return while also dumping salary..

To be clear, it is not like the Braves knew they were getting "this" Eddie... They are beyond fortunate with how well he has played and how little it cost.

He had to go - it was the right move.... We were going to take ANYTHING for him.

It is what it is. He burned us twice the little jerk... lol

 

[DCTribefan]

I'm not sure that dumping Eddie at the deadline stings.

Eddie was hurt and didn't even play for Atlanta until Aug 28th.

At the time he got hurt, we were about 8 games back. In the next ten games we didn't make a move in the standings. There was no reason to keep him, when he wasn't close to returning.

What stung was the loss of almost the entire rotation. No matter how Eddie would have played for us, it wouldn't have made enough difference to overcome the rotation.

Had we stayed in contention, he might not have been traded, but we didn't. And being hurt with no timetable to return, he had almost zero value in trade.

This isn't like, 'Boy, did we make a bad trade that really hurt.'

It didn't make a darned bit of difference, except that we saved about $4.5 mil....the difference between what was left of his and Sandoval's contracts.

If you want to feel better about trading Eddie, consider that what we saved can be used to pretty much pay for Bieber's or Franmil's arby this winter.

I agree with you that the trade really had zero impact on the trajectory of the Indians’ season. I was merely expressing my frustration that his good performance was limited to late season with the Braves and not earlier in the season as the Tribe’s biggest FA acquisition.

 

[DCTribefan]

 

[CDAV45]

What makes it "sting" is he was barely moveable at the deadline (as evidenced by the "return") only to turn into an All-Star.

It's sour grapes. That's all.

We all know if he had played for us like he did after we moved him, we'd probably have had our own playoff run OR actually got something in return while also dumping salary..

To be clear, it is not like the Braves knew they were getting "this" Eddie... They are beyond fortunate with how well he has played and how little it cost.

He had to go - it was the right move.... We were going to take ANYTHING for him.

It is what it is. He burned us twice the little jerk... lol

Yeah it just didn't work out for Eddie in Cleveland, but I'm happy that he's finding success in ATL. How it all worked out sucks for us Cleveland fans though, but that's life. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. I'd say it's about f'n time we get the bear though because we haven't had a good corner OFer in a minute.

 

[bs80]

They left out "cheating." Fuck those assholes!

 

[DCTribefan]

 

[jup]

Give it a break !!

Manfred messed enough with Atlanta when he pulled the All Star game. No need to add insult to injury.

May be hard for some on the "Woke" side to get, but Atlanta is still one of his franchises and he has a responsibility to represent their interests.

 

[bob2the2nd]

Give it a break !!

Manfred messed enough with Atlanta when he pulled the All Star game. No need to add insult to injury.

May be hard for some on the "Woke" side to get, but Atlanta is still one of his franchises and he has a responsibility to represent their interests.

youre going to have to explain to me what voter restriction has to do with a "racist" team name. pulling the all star game from atlanta was a punishment of the georgia legislature.

Let me be clear I didnt think Indians was racist. I dont think Braves is racist (tomahawk chop approaches the line). However if there is pressure for the indians to change their name that pressure should be felt across all sports teams that use some moniker of native american. Blackhawks, seminoles, braves, etc.

 

[jup]

youre going to have to explain to me what voter restriction has to do with a "racist" team name. pulling the all star game from atlanta was a punishment of the georgia legislature.

Let me be clear I didnt think Indians was racist. I dont think Braves is racist (tomahawk chop approaches the line). However if there is pressure for the indians to change their name that pressure should be felt across all sports teams that use some moniker of native american. Blackhawks, seminoles, braves, etc.

What they have to do with each other is the city of Atlanta and all its residents and businesses. That is where the All Star game was supposed to be and that is where the franchise does its business (and thus his franchises fan base). Seems like the economic impact is felt in the same place. Enough of a direct link for you ???

On the pressure side, depends on where the pressure came from. No doubt the Braves have had to deal with pressure about their name, but from what sources???

To my knowledge the league never mandated the Indians name change.

 

[Gson]

imho.. and with this note directed at a Moderator... (you listening Q-Tip?)

Take the wokeness and racist and this-ist and that-ist to the politics room of this website.

IT HAS NO PLACE HERE..

If you don't agree with me.. there are remedies..

Baseball is the topic.. and the Braves and the Astros are tied 1-1 in the fall classic..

 

[Peachtree]

What they have to do with each other is the city of Atlanta and all its residents and businesses. That is where the All Star game was supposed to be and that is where the franchise does its business (and thus his franchises fan base). Seems like the economic impact is felt in the same place. Enough of a direct link for you ???

On the pressure side, depends on where the pressure came from. No doubt the Braves have had to deal with pressure about their name, but from what sources???

To my knowledge the league never mandated the Indians name change.

The Braves don't play in the City of Atlanta. They're in Suburban Cobb County with an unincorporated Atlanta address.

 

[sportscoach]

youre going to have to explain to me what voter restriction has to do with a "racist" team name. pulling the all star game from atlanta was a punishment of the georgia legislature.

Let me be clear I didnt think Indians was racist. I dont think Braves is racist (tomahawk chop approaches the line). However if there is pressure for the indians to change their name that pressure should be felt across all sports teams that use some moniker of native american. Blackhawks, seminoles, braves, etc.

First off @Gson is right, this isn't the thread for that so try and move this elsewhere, plus Seminoles actually have an agreement with the main part of the Tribe, and honestly if agreements with Tribe's happen, then there isn't any issues using the names honestly (even though people will complain even if the Tribe makes an agreement. This is such a gray area so let's keep it from the Guardians thread and maybe ask @Sebastian if it hasn't been started, about discussing sports names in the politics thread so we can just send people there

 

[jup]

The Braves don't play in the City of Atlanta. They're in Suburban Cobb County with an unincorporated Atlanta address.

Got it

Was just there having a look at that new stadium (impressive) - sorry for the semantics - should I say the metro area, or the MSA - the point is the same and you can argue the technicality if you want.

What should we say about the Angles they play in Anaheim and adversity to the LA market would have no effect on them? Or the Royals, who seem to play in unincorporated patches of weeds, so adversity in the Kansas City market wouldn't effect them. Or would that just be KC Kansas, not KC Missouri. And the Rays - maybe the St Petersburg Rays and adversity to the Tampa market doesn't effect them. Probably a blessing for them. ETC ETC

MLB was not kind to the Greater Atlanta Metropolitan Statistical area, and Rob Manfred represents a franchise there. So he has a responsibility to his franchise owners also. One of those thirty franchises calls their home Atlanta, even though they are technically not there anymore.

 

[AZ_]